Official Texans @ Titans Game Thread, 12/3/2017

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.

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L Miller up the gut for 11, 1st down. Ball at the Texan 36.

End of the 3rd qtr.

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L Miller goes for 6.

L Miller for 2. Brings up 3rd and 2.

Pass to Hop off the mark, inc. Texans to punt.

Punt goes out of bounds at the Titan 19. Titan's ball.

13:28 left in the game.

[Arky]

Henry caught for a loss of 2.

K Johnson with the PI on the deep pass....Places the ball at the Titan 38.

Henry caught for a loss of 1.

Deep pass to Decker is too long, inc.

On 3rd and 11, checkdown to Murray gets 1...flags down....illegal block in the back on the Titans is declined. Titans to punt.

Thompson brings the punt back to the Texan 19. Texan's ball.

11:31 left in the game that never ends....

[Arky]

L Miller for 4.

Savage can't find a receiver and goes down for no gain.

Pass to Hop gets the 1st down at the Texan 36.

L Miller for 3. A Titan (Woodyard) injured on the play.

Savage pressured, throws it away, inc. Flag down....holding on Giacomini, -10. Makes it 2nd and 17.

Checkdown to L Miller gets 11. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Anderson draws the PI. Places the ball at midfield.

L Miller for 3.

Savage pressured, gets it away to A Ellington for the 1st down at the Titan 35.

Pass to Thompson gets a 1st down at the Titan 24.

Savage pressured, completes to Hop but holding on the Texans (Allen) backs it up 10. 1st and 20 coming up.

Flags presnap....no flag, Texans get in a timeout as the play clock was expiring....

Pass to Anderson gets 10.

On 2nd and 10, pass to Thompson is dropped.

On 3rd and 10, pass to A Elllington is inc. near the goal line. Texans going for the FG.

Fairbairn's 42-yarder is good.

Titans 17, Texans 13

4:37 left in the game.

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.

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Henry for 2.

Sweep to Taylor goes for no gain.

On 3rd and 8, Mariota can't find a receiver and slide down way short of the 1st down. Titans have to punt.

Thompson brings the punt back to the Texan 28. Texan's ball with 2 timeouts and 2:47 left in the game.

[Arky]

Pass to A Ellington gets 5.

Pass to Anderson goes to the Titan 42, 1st down.

Checkdown to L Miller gets 6. 2:02 left in the game.

Short pass to Anderson ruled inc.

2 minute warning (1:57 actual).

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On 3rd and 4, pass to Anderson is broken up, inc. Texans going for it on 4th and 4.

Jeez, false start on the Texans, -5. Makes it 4th and 9.

And another. False start, Jeff Allen. Makes it 4th and 14.

One more time, false start, Jeff Allen. Makes it 4th and 19.

Goodness, nice catch! Pass to Anderson goes to the Titan 29, first down. Play is under review.....

Play stands, 1st down.

Savage's pass is INT'ed in the end zone by the Titans. Ball is brought back out to the Titan 15. Titan's ball.

1:13 left in the game.

[Arky]

INT was ruled a touchback. Titan's ball at their 20.

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Henry gets 3. Texans use a timeout (#2).

Henry for 2. Texans use their last timeout. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Jeez, Henry sweeps left and goes all the way for the TD. 75 yards.

Titans 24, Texans 13

46 seconds left in the game.

There goes the Texan's cover. Bad beat if you had the Texans.

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Texan 31 by Thompson. Texan's ball with 39 seconds left in the game.

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Checkdown to L Miller gets 10.

Pass to Anderson goes to the Titan 45 but is ruled inc because Anderson stepped out of bounds.

Checkdown to L Miller goes to the Titan 48, 1st down.

Spike with 2 seconds left.

Savage gets snowed under.

Time runs out.

Final Score:

Titans 24, Texans 13

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If it's not the offense, it's the defense. If it's not the defense, it's the special teams.....

I didn't like the call for the end zone pass (that was INT'ed) with 1½ minutes left in the game....

[nunusguy]

Really strong game by Savage, except for that pass into double coverage to Hopkins in the EZ at the end of the game.
And that was Clowneys worst game of the year, damn big fella get your head out of your ass.

[Arky]

Early line on Texans vs. 49ers is Texans by 1 to 2...

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Really strong game by Savage, except for that pass into double coverage to Hopkins in the EZ at the end of the game.
And that was Clowneys worst game of the year, damn big fella get your head out of your ass.

Definitely Savage's best game and real improvement shown. If he wanted a job as a backup at close to league minimum next year I'd bring him back. I definitely wouldn't say really strong game though. We scored 13 points against a team that is 25th in DVOA and bottom half in scoring defense. Moving the ball for passing yards is better than not moving the ball, but turning it into points is what QBs get paid for.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

Definitely Savage's best game and real improvement shown. If he wanted a job as a backup at close to league minimum next year I'd bring him back. I definitely wouldn't say really strong game though. We scored 13 points against a team that is 25th in DVOA and bottom half in scoring defense. Moving the ball for passing yards is better than not moving the ball, but turning it into points is what QBs get paid for.

C'mon Barrett quit being such a hard-azz, Savage played well and threw some excellent passes yesterday except I will admit that pass at the end was ill advised. And he's not gonna be anywhere next year for or at close to the league mimimun, the kid is gonna get paid.
But JD Clowneys performance was disappointing, especially for who is probably the best football player in the state of Texas. He had like 3 or 4 offsides.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

C'mon Barrett quit being such a hard-azz, Savage played well and threw some excellent passes yesterday except I will admit that pass at the end was ill advised. And he's not gonna be anywhere next year for or at close to the league mimimun, the kid is gonna get paid.
But JD Clowneys performance was disappointing, especially for who is probably the best football player in the state of Texas. He had like 3 or 4 offsides.

You are way overestimating the market for Savage. Savage has 5 career TDs, a negative TD to INT ratio, the most fumbles in the league even though he hasn't played half the games, and is a career 58% passer. He'll be a 5th year player next year and minimum for a 5th year guy is $775,000.

My guess is Savage gets a short term deal for about $1 million a year. If that is the market then I don't mind bringing him back as the backup (I'd add another young guy somehow as well). If somebody wants to overpay him I'll gladly wish him luck elsewhere.

Either way I'm not understanding where you get the idea he's going to get paid next year. He's accomplished nothing in his 4 year career. He's been constantly hurt, he's got terrible accuracy, no pocket awareness, and prior to this season he managed to get 3 starts in 3 years for a team that started 8 QBs during that time. Add to that he was never projected as more than a backup QB at any time before or after entering the NFL.

Here is a list of guys who signed in the neighborhood I'm talking about (all of whom have track record and pedigree equal to or better than Savage).

Gabbert 1 year $895,000
Geno Smith 1/$1.2 million
EJ Manuel 1/$800,000
Kellen Moore 1/$775,000

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

You are way overestimating the market for Savage. Savage has 5 career TDs, a negative TD to INT ratio, the most fumbles in the league even though he hasn't played half the games, and is a career 58% passer. He'll be a 5th year player next year and minimum for a 5th year guy is $775,000.

My guess is Savage gets a short term deal for about $1 million a year. If that is the market then I don't mind bringing him back as the backup (I'd add another young guy somehow as well). If somebody wants to overpay him I'll gladly wish him luck elsewhere.

Either way I'm not understanding where you get the idea he's going to get paid next year. He's accomplished nothing in his 4 year career. He's been constantly hurt, he's got terrible accuracy, no pocket awareness, and prior to this season he managed to get 3 starts in 3 years for a team that started 8 QBs during that time. Add to that he was never projected as more than a backup QB at any time before or after entering the NFL.

Here is a list of guys who signed in the neighborhood I'm talking about (all of whom have track record and pedigree equal to or better than Savage).

Gabbert 1 year $895,000
Geno Smith 1/$1.2 million
EJ Manuel 1/$800,000
Kellen Moore 1/$775,000

We will see for ourselves in a few months what kind of opportunites
Savage receives.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

We will see for ourselves in a few months what kind of opportunites
Savage receives.

Ou
tstanding
take,
nunu!

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by chuck

Ou
tstanding
take,
nunu!

Chuck, stop flaunting the
superior wi-fi you
get in Panama

(Hey, that's a Haiku)

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Chuck, stop flaunting the
superior wi-fi you
get in Panama

(Hey, that's a Haiku)

I have two networks
so my son can watch his shows
while I watch the game.

Occasionally
I get up to 60 megs
but the throughput sucks.

Nunu's as confused
as ever because he thinks
I live in San Juan.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by chuck

I have two networks
so my son can watch his shows
while I watch the game.

Occasionally
I get up to 60 megs
but the throughput sucks.

Nunu's as confused
as ever because he thinks
I live in San Juan.

You know I was confused until my good friend Barrett took me aside and explained your situation to me, which is of course that you are a long-time River Oaks resident along with your next door neighbors the McNair family.
But he also explained to me about how you'd bought this property in PR as sorta a vacation retreat for your domestic help.
See now there's a feel good Christmas story about being charitable with ones fellow man, in this case some of his employees but you know just the Chuckster being the Chuckster.

[Keith]

Speaking of good Christmas stories, what with the 2017 season basically over, sure seems like a good time for chuck to fire up the wayback prose machine... either that or we go back to the haiku contest.

[Nconroe]

With so many injured
It's great to have Cushing back,
like 2018 but 2017 season.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Keith

Speaking of good Christmas stories, what with the 2017 season basically over, sure seems like a good time for chuck to fire up the wayback prose machine... either that or we go back to the haiku contest.

I was going to tell a story about one of the countless times Cal and I played board games in his parent's den but then I remembered how it ended and you know how I hate to embarrass the McNair family so I thought better of it. Maybe I'll just make something up instead.