Kaepernick

bikerack · #1 11-06-2017, 07:25 PM

From my friend...

BOB wants Kaep. Up to management to make It happen. Have talked with his agent repeatedly. Big hurdles still to clear. Coach is so frustrated right now and has no faith in Savage. Neither does the locker room. Signing Kaep would probably bring them back together.

chuck · #2 11-07-2017, 12:00 AM

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From my friend...

BOB wants Kaep. Up to management to make It happen. Have talked with his agent repeatedly. Big hurdles still to clear. Coach is so frustrated right now and has no faith in Savage. Neither does the locker room. Signing Kaep would probably bring them back together.

Thanks as always for the information. What are the hurdles? Who is placing them?

barrett · #3 11-07-2017, 06:25 AM

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Thanks as always for the information. What are the hurdles? Who is placing them?

I bet they're trying to muzzle him with the contract. Or at the least limit him to kneeling outside of the anthem.

Warren · #4 11-07-2017, 05:54 PM

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I bet they're trying to muzzle him with the contract. Or at the least limit him to kneeling outside of the anthem.

I don’t think that was the case. They could cut him for any reason so there’s no need to try to put something like that in his contract. If they wanted to be able to get his signing bonus back (if he would get a signing bonus at all), the CBA doesn’t allow forfeiture of his signing bonus for something like that. They could try to un-guarantee his remaining salary (assuming it is otherwise guaranteed) but if that’s what they want to do they should just not guarantee it at all. And while it doesn't prove collusion Kapernick's attorneys would have a field day with it.

barrett · #5 11-07-2017, 06:20 PM

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I don’t think that was the case. They could cut him for any reason so there’s no need to try to put something like that in his contract. If they wanted to be able to get his signing bonus back (if he would get a signing bonus at all), the CBA doesn’t allow forfeiture of his signing bonus for something like that. They could try to un-guarantee his remaining salary (assuming it is otherwise guaranteed) but if that’s what they want to do they should just not guarantee it at all. And while it doesn't prove collusion Kapernick's attorneys would have a field day with it.

I meant more just both sides making expectations clear before signing. Like the front office saying we'll sign you if you agree to not kneel during the anthem.

He isn't getting any real money from anyone so I didn't mean anything about that. His only hope is to play for the minimum and hope to play well enough to get paid next year.

bikerack · #6 11-07-2017, 08:34 AM

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Thanks as always for the information. What are the hurdles? Who is placing them?

This is me talking (not my friend)....I am sure the fact that McNair's phone/email records were deposed by Kaep's lawsuit might have something to do with it. Does McNair need to be removed from the request before he is brought in for a workout? Would be a pretty weird situation to be in a legal situation regarding no one signing him with the guy that signed him.

bikerack · #7 11-07-2017, 08:36 AM

This IS from my friend....

After they cut up the tape yesterday, the staff saw just how bad Savage performed. Rumblings that he may not start this week. Wide open receivers missed constantly because he was locking on to Hopkins on almost every play. Direct quote from a coach "The game shouldn't have even been close if he sees them."

chuck · #8 11-07-2017, 09:57 AM

I was wondering if signing Kaep would help McNair in the collusion case. I mean, how the hell can he collude to keep a guy out of the league that he's just signed? If signing Kaep effectively gets McNair a get out of jail free card AND it makes football sense, well, McNair would really, really have to want to sit with the cool kids at lunch not to move on it.

HPF Bob · #9 11-07-2017, 12:43 PM

At this point, Kaep is likely rustier than a '55 Chevy at the bottom of a lake. If rushed into action, he'll just embarrass himself.

chuck · #10 11-07-2017, 12:47 PM

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... he'll just embarrass himself.

Great point. Better stick with Savage, then.

chuck · #11 11-07-2017, 05:08 PM

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At this point, Kaep is likely rustier than a '55 Chevy at the bottom of a lake.

Great point. So let's sign a guy who hasn't attempted a pass since 2011.

Warren · #12 11-07-2017, 05:45 PM

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I was wondering if signing Kaep would help McNair in the collusion case. I mean, how the hell can he collude to keep a guy out of the league that he's just signed? If signing Kaep effectively gets McNair a get out of jail free card AND it makes football sense, well, McNair would really, really have to want to sit with the cool kids at lunch not to move on it.

It couldn't hurt. The owners would say exactly that. Kaepernick's lawyers would say signing him now doesn't mean that there wasn't collusion up to this point, and that the Texans only signed him to try to help their case (which McNair would rebut with the game film of Savage against the Colts). The Texans trying to condition his signing on letting McNair out would not be good, as Kaepernick's attorneys would claim that was just a guy who had been caught red handed trying to cut a deal.