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Old 04-28-2016, 09:34 PM
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Fuller is ligit 4.32 speed. 30 TD at ND. Not bad.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:35 PM
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The Texans obviously liked this guy a lot more than any other receiver that was out there. I like that they went and got the guy they wanted rather than settling for whoever was left.

They still need someone to return kicks.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:35 PM
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We moved up and lost a sixth rounder in2017.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:38 PM
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Fwiw O'Brien recruited Fuller while at Penn St. but didn't get him.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:39 PM
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I like it. Speed, baby.

Get him working with D-Hop to straighten him out re: drops...............
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:39 PM
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I saw several Notre Dame games, and this kids talent jumps off the screen.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:44 PM
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For the Record.....if I could not have traded down, I would have selected Josh Doctson at #22.
The Skins take Doctson at #22. I wonder if they would have taken him @ #21 without the trade. Then, I would have taken Michael Thomas or traded down. Surprised that Laquon Treadwell is still available too. Very interesting.
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:58 PM
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25 picks in and I am still looking at Michael Thomas, Jarran Reed, Bronson Kaufusi, Sterling Shepard, Kevin Dodd, Carl Nassib, Jason Spriggs, Vernon Butler, Kenny Clark, A'Shawn Robinson, and Paxton Lynch. The Broncos just traded up for....
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:03 PM
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The Broncos gave up #94 and #31 to trade up to #26. I would have traded down from #22 for that. The Broncos select...Paxton Lynch.

The Packers are up next, and Ted Thompson always seems to draft My Guys. Guessing he takes Jarran Reed or one of my other 1st round graded players.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:13 PM
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Kenny Clark over Jarran Reed. Very interesting.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:19 PM
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DAMN!!!! I was so hopeful that Garnett might last until the 3rd round. I would have been pleased if the Texans or Colts would have selected him in the 2nd round. He was just too good to slide down where I was constantly picking him in Mock Drafts.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:20 PM
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Happy about the Broncos getting their QBOTF and lost just a 3rd rounder.

See Rick Smith? That's the RIGHT way to work a trade up.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:38 PM
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Carolina takes Vernon Butler. Seattle has the last pick in the first round. The guys I'm looking at with 1st round talent:
WR Michael Thomas Ohio St
NT Jarran Reed Alabama
DE Bronson Kaufusi BYU
WR Sterling Shepard Oklahoma
DE Kevin Dodd Clemson
DE Carl Nassib Penn St
OT Jason Spriggs Indiana
NT A'Shawn Robinson Alabama

Players I gave a 2nd round grade:
RB Kenneth Dixon La Tech
RB Derrick Henry Alabama
TE Hunter Henry Arkansas
TE Austin Hooper Stanford
TE Nick Vannett Ohio St
LBO Shilique Calhoun Michigan St
NT Maliek Collins Nebraska
NT Javon Hargrave S.Carolina St.
NT Hassan Ridgeway Texas
S Sean Davis Maryland
QB Connor Cook Michigan St
DE Chris Jones Miss State
WR Braxton Miller Ohio St
S Von Bell Ohio St
LBI Kamalei Correa Boise St
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Old 04-28-2016, 11:03 PM
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Probably I'd prefer TE Henry or Hooper in second, or several positions, Oline, Dline, ...
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Old 04-28-2016, 11:12 PM
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First round complete. NFL.com player grade on the end:

1(1) Rams (From Titans) Goff, Jared QB 6'4" 215 California 6.5
2(2) Eagles (From Browns) Wentz, Carson QB 6'5" 237 North Dakota St. 6.5
3(3) Chargers Bosa, Joey DE 6'5" 269 Ohio St. 6.7
4(4) Cowboys Elliott, Ezekiel RB 6'0" 225 Ohio St. 7.0
5(5) Jaguars Ramsey, Jalen CB 6'1" 209 Florida St. 6.8
6(6) Ravens Stanley, Ronnie OT 6'6" 312 Notre Dame 6.5
7(7) 49ers Buckner, DeForest DE 6'7" 291 Oregon 7.2
8(8) Titans (From Browns through Eagles through Dolphins) Conklin, Jack OT 6'6" 308 Michigan St. 6.4
9(9) Bears (From Buccaneers) Floyd, Leonard OLB 6'6" 244 Georgia 6.5
10(10) Giants Apple, Eli CB 6'1" 199 Ohio St. 6.0
11(11) Buccaneers (From Bears) Hargreaves, Vernon CB 5'10" 204 Florida 6.6
12(12) Saints Rankins, Sheldon DT 6'1" 299 Louisville 6.2
13(13) Dolphins (From Eagles) Tunsil, Laremy OT 6'5" 310 Mississippi 7.6
14(14) Raiders Joseph, Karl S 5'10" 205 West Virginia 5.9
15(15) Browns (From Titans through Rams) Coleman, Corey WR 5'11" 194 Baylor 6.0
16(16) Lions Decker, Taylor OT 6'7" 310 Ohio St. 5.9
17(17) Falcons Neal, Keanu SS 6'0" 211 Florida 5.8
18(18) Colts Kelly, Ryan C 6'4" 311 Alabama 5.8
19(19) Bills Lawson, Shaq DE 6'3" 269 Clemson 6.2
20(20) Jets Lee, Darron OLB 6'1" 232 Ohio St. 6.2
21(21) Texans (From Redskins) Fuller, Will WR 6'0" 186 Notre Dame 6.2
22(22) Redskins (From Texans) Doctson, Josh WR 6'2" 202 TCU 6.1
23(23) Vikings Treadwell, Laquon WR 6'2" 221 Mississippi 6.2
24(24) Bengals Jackson III, William CB 6'0" 189 Houston 5.9
25(25) Steelers Burns, Artie CB 6'0" 193 Miami 5.9
26(26) Broncos (From Seahawks) Lynch, Paxton QB 6'7" 244 Memphis 6.1
27(27) Packers Clark, Kenny DT 6'3" 314 UCLA 5.9
28(28) 49ers (From Chiefs) Garnett, Joshua OG 6'4" 312 Stanford 5.8
30(29) Cardinals Nkemdiche, Robert DT 6'3" 294 Mississippi 6.3
31(30) Panthers Butler, Vernon DT 6'4" 323 Louisiana Tech 6.1
32(31) Seahawks (From Broncos) Ifedi, Germain OG 6'6" 324 Texas A&M 5.8
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Old 04-29-2016, 12:59 AM
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A home run threat on every snap. A nice complement with Hopkins and Strong. Big investment to the offense which needed speed in the offseason and now have it with the additions of Fuller and Lamar Miller.

You want to know another receiver with questions about his hands out of college?

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"I wouldn't label him a 'body catcher,' because he does grab the ball out in front of him, but he doesn't look really that natural (as a receiver)," said one personnel director. "He doesn't have those real, soft hands, you know?"
That's from an ESPN article in 2003 about Andre Johnson.
http://espn.go.com/nfldraft/columnist?id=1519382
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:28 PM
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PFT reporting the Texans were targeting S Karl Joseph from West Virginia. I think Florio, who posted this article, went to WVU so maybe he knows someone there?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-joseph-badly/

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Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Texans badly wanted former West Virginia safety Karl Joseph.

The Texans never got a chance to get him, because the Raiders surprisingly made Joseph the 14th overall selection — despite a torn ACL he suffered last year at practice.
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:43 PM
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This makes me wonder how they feel about Sean Davis and Vonn Bell. Maybe we could get Miles Killebrew. Heck TJ Green and KJ Dillon are possible too.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:50 PM
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Were it mine to do, I would have offered the Broncos the same move down and have two third-rounders. With my three top guys all off the board at #22, I would have moved down to #31 and added #94, selected Ifedi or a d-lineman and come back in the second to take Martin, Shepard, Chris Jones or Nassib depending on how the chips fell.

Fuller might have still been there at #31 anyway. Rob Rang had him listed as the 35th best prospect in the draft.

Until proven otherwise, I see Fuller as a guy whose upside is Alvin Harper and his downside is Darius Heywood-Bey. Not worth the 21st or 22nd pick but in the discussion at the beginning of Round 2.
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Old 04-29-2016, 04:44 PM
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I fully agree with you, Bob.
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