Let's Talk 2016 NFL Draft Quarterbacks

[Roy P]

Vernon Adams Jr. Is 5'11" and I wouldn't mind having him on this roster as the "Seneca Wallace - type" backup. I'm a measurables geek as much as the next guy. If I'm looking at a roster of players with heights/weights, I notice Jake Coker and Nate Sudfeld because they are 6"5". But when you see a guy play and you take a second look at the measurables iust to make sure you didn't overlook him the first time, and you realize that he's not your prototype, but you want him on your team anyway....that's how you get a great bargtoain/value at the draft. If Russell Wilson had been 6'4" at the Senior Bowl, he would have been a 1st round pick. Jacoby Brissett looked good too.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Vernon Adams Jr. Is 5'11" and I wouldn't mind having him on this roster as the "Seneca Wallace - type" backup. I'm a measurables geek as much as the next guy. If I'm looking at a roster of players with heights/weights, I notice Jake Coker and Nate Sudfeld because they are 6"5". But when you see a guy play and you take a second look at the measurables iust to make sure you didn't overlook him the first time, and you realize that he's not your prototype, but you want him on your team anyway....that's how you get a great bargtoain/value at the draft. If Russell Wilson had been 6'4" at the Senior Bowl, he would have been a 1st round pick. Jacoby Brissett looked good too.

I agree on Dixon, like Wilson all he has done in college is win. A solid kid.

And I disagree about Wilson being a 1st rounder if he was 6-4, IMO he would have been a top 5 pick. (You did not have him high enough)

[Roy P]

I don't know what "It" is, but I know "It" when I see "It" and Dak Prescott has "It" and I would like to go to battle with him. He reminds me so much of Steve McNair. I hate comparing a Black QB to another Black QB, but that's the initial comparison. The 2nd is Brett Favre, and I'm comparing Mississippi QBs.....so, my 3rd comparison is Russell Wilson and Cam Newton....against my better judgment again African American QBs. To round it out, Ben Roethlisberger. So, mix all those guys up and you see why I'm a Dak Prescott fan.

[Warren]

Prescott has also been compared to Tim Tebow. Both ran Dan Mullen's offense in college, both are physical runners, and both are strong leaders. The big question on Prescott is whether he has the accuracy to be an NFL starter, which Tebow lacked.

[Roy P]

Donovon McNabb was an effective QB and was not very accurate at all. I think that Prescott is more accurate and made huge strides in his passing game from last year to this season. He's not going to be Joe Montana, but if he's as good as McNabb was for the Eagles, he's going to be the best QB this franchise has ever had.

[barrett]

Projecting guys to the NFL is a roll of the dice.

Aside from projecting talent, NFL success is hugely influenced by team, coaching, coaching stability, surrounding talent, etc... If Peyton Manning doesn't run the same offense with the same OC his first 10+ years he's probably still great, but probably not Peyton Manning great. And there are probably QBs who were ruined by Houston/JAX/CLE that could have succeeded if given the perfect situation.

Tebow completed 68% of his passes his senior year in college, accuracy wasn't the main issue. The total inability to operate an NFL offense was (being under center, slow release, terrible mechanics, only read half the field in college and was bad at reading NFL defenses). But Tebow still showed flashes of effectiveness when they ran a gimmick college spread offense for him in Denver. When he played in a regular NFL system he was terrible. Same with Vince Young, he led a team to 12-4 when they were invested in him and built an offense around what he did well. He was a terrible backup when teams didn't.

Carolina has built an offense around deep shots and red zone efficiency. It is a brilliant example of coaches highlighting what a guy does well while minimizing what he does poorly.

Nobody can say for sure what kind of NFL talent Prescott has (except Roy), but the better question for the Texans is whether O'Brien is willing to build around an atypical QB and base an offense on what a guy does well instead of what O'Brien wants. I for one think O'Brien will go for the guy who best does what O'Brien values, not the guy who does the most good things.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by barrett

Nobody can say for sure what kind of NFL talent Prescott has (except Roy), but the better question for the Texans is whether O'Brien is willing to build around an atypical QB and base an offense on what a guy does well instead of what O'Brien wants. I for one think O'Brien will go for the guy who best does what O'Brien values, not the guy who does the most good things.

I'm in agreement with you that BOB will go with the guy he feels most comfortable with. I can see the Texans taking Hackenberg. Bill felt comfortable with Hoyer and Mallet. I'm merely stating that was a mistake and I believe Hackenberg will be a mistake too. The price tag for Goff/Wentz may be too expensive to move up for. Jacob Coker and Nate Sudfeld "fit" for OB. I just think that next season is Savage's opportunity to shine or fail. Meanwhile, Prescott has an upside that I would love to see on the roster.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by barrett

Tebow completed 68% of his passes his senior year in college, accuracy wasn't the main issue.

I don't think that college completion percentage is a good measure of accuracy, although a particularly low percentage can be an indication of a problem. When I say "accuracy" I mean ball placement, touch, etc. A college QB's completion percentage can be skewed by his offense, if he's mainly only being asked to make the easy throws, and all college stats can be suspect due to the big talent differences that can exist between teams. Florida probably only played a handful of teams during Tebow's career that were as or more talented than they were. Tebow didn't have to have pinpoint precision throwing to guys like Aaron Hernandez and Percy Harvin against college DBs, but in the NFL he found out that the coverage is much tighter. I do agree that he had other issues, and no doubt his bad mechanics played a big part in his lack of accuracy.

[Roy P]

Prescott’s numbers are among the best in SEC history
By Jake Wimberly on September 29, 2015

Prescott and Mullen
The biggest knock on Mississippi State’s Dak Prescott used to be that he was just a runner and not a proficient passer.

That criticism has been put to rest and Prescott is poised to finish off his career as one of the state of Mississippi’s most transcendent college football players of the past 40 years.

Prescott enjoyed a banner season in 2014, including helping his team to the first No. 1 ranking in school history. He guided the Bulldogs to just the third 10-win season in school history and a berth in the Orange Bowl, and finished eighth in Heisman voting. Prescott finished with 4,485 total yards, the third-highest single-season total in SEC history.

Through four games this season, he has Mississippi State in the top 25 again and is on a pace to finish his career in the top five in SEC history in total offense. If Mississippi State were to go to a bowl, Prescott potentially could finish in the top three in the league in that category (behind only Aaron Murray and Tim Tebow). He’s also on a pace to finish his career as the most prolific major-college offensive player in state of Mississippi history.

Not bad for a former three-star recruit from Haughton, La.

Going into this week’s game at Texas A&M, Prescott has not thrown an interception in 191 consecutive attempts – the sixth-longest streak in SEC history and the longest current streak in the country. He has thrown for 1,069 yards, with seven TDs and no interceptions, and is completing 66.9 percent of his passes.

To put Prescott’s Mississippi State career in perspective, consider that there were 14 quarterbacks who started at least one game for the Bulldogs from 2002-08, the seven-season stretch prior to coach Dan Mullen’s arrival in Starkville. Those quarterbacks combined for just over 14,000 total yards, with 79 touchdown passes and 116 interceptions. Prescott is on pace to finish with 11,086 total yards, with 69 touchdown passes and 18 interceptions.

His improvement as a passer has NFL teams looking at him as a potential second-day pick in the 2016 draft. He still can make some refinements as a passer, but he also has come a long way. Quarterback guru David Morris — coincidentally an Ole Miss alum who runs a company that develops and trains quarterbacks called “QB Country” — has said Prescott arguably had the best skill set of any quarterback in the country entering the 2015 season and compared him to former first-round pick Donovan McNabb.

[barrett]

Well if the MSU play-by-play guy/blogger who wrote that article and the QB coach getting paid by Prescott say he is awesome, then I take it back, there is no doubt and no roll of the dice, he is a sure thing.

[Roy P]

- 2015 ALL-SEC FIRST TEAM (COACHES): QB Dak Prescott, Mississippi State...Prescott became the first Bulldog to earn back-to-back first-team honors at quarterback since Billy Stacy in 1956-57. He led the SEC in conference games this fall in completions (226), completion percentage (67.1), passing yards (2,528), touchdown-to-interception ratio (17:4), passing yards per game (316.2) and total offense per game (363.2). The senior also finished second in league games with a 144.3 passing efficiency rating, and tied for fifth in points scored (48). Prescott was the only player in the SEC to lead his team in both passing and rushing on the season and one of only six players in the Power 5 Conferences to do so. The Haughton, Louisiana, native broke his own single-season school records for completion percentage (66.9 in 2015; 61.6 in 2014) and yards per game (284.4 in 2015; 265.3 in 2014). In games against Top-25 opponents, Prescott led the SEC in completions (87), completion percentage (63.5), passing yards (889) and passing yards per game (296.3).