2015 Mocks

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I don't remember Cushing failing a test before the draft, I could be forgetting something, but I do remember the owner signing off on Amobi Okoye, who IIRC failed the drug test at the combine. So one time fails get a pass, repeatedly failing test, they get removed from the board.

IIRC, Cushing had steroid allegations before the draft. I don't recall anything else.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

IIRC, Cushing had steroid allegations before the draft. I don't recall anything else.

Allegations, but never a confirmed failed test IIRC. Big difference IMO.

[Roy P]

When Cushing was suspended for Performance Enhancing violation, it was my understanding that it wasn't the first offense. He was already on double - secret probation. I surmised that his first violation was at the Combine.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Roy P

When Cushing was suspended for Performance Enhancing violation, it was my understanding that it wasn't the first offense. He was already on double - secret probation. I surmised that his first violation was at the Combine.

Players are suspended on the first positive test under the performance enhancing drug policy. At that time the first positive PED test brought a four game suspension and a second positive was eight games. Cushing got four games. You're thinking of recreational drugs.

[Roy P]

Was Luis Castillo suspended for 4 games his rookie season for testing positive at the Combine?

Regardless, I would not have drafted Castillo or Cushing and I would not want Gregory this year with my 1st round pick. Red Flag that isn't worth the risk.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Was Luis Castillo suspended for 4 games his rookie season for testing positive at the Combine?

Good point, a positive test at the combine doesn't result in a suspension. But I think it does get them on the double-secret probation you talked about so if Cushing had tested positive at the combine it wouldn't have been treated like a first offense when he failed the test a year leader. And when Castillo tested positive at the combine, it was one of the big stories of that draft. If Cushing had done that it would've gotten out and it would've been a big deal. There were rumors of him juicing at USC, but never anything substantiated.

As for Gregory, you have to really wonder about a guy who tests positive when he knew he was going to be tested and how much was riding on the combine. It raises a lot of questions about his commitment, focus, and general mental state.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Warren

As for Gregory, you have to really wonder about a guy who tests positive when he knew he was going to be tested and how much was riding on the combine. It raises a lot of questions about his commitment, focus, and general mental state.

That is exactly the reason why I would not draft him in the 1st round. There are other talented players who have not demonstrated that type of stupidity and immaturity. It tells me that he thought because he's talented that he can get away with it. Drafting him in the 1st round would only substantiate his belief of entitlement. It sends the wrong signal to the rest of the team in my opinion.