2015 Mocks

[chuck]

Bob, when you trade down who are people trading up to get?

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by chuck

Bob, when you trade down who are people trading up to get?

I think it is more positioning than strategy. The simulator is just simulating what it thinks is a fair trade. It's probably asking too much to ask it to actually target a player since the trade proposal normally comes at the start of the round, not when your team is on the clock.

But that leads into my latest draft which is using the CBS Sports big board and involves three trades to maximize second-day picks, knowing we have comp picks we can't trade with.

1) Traded 1-16 to Pittsburgh for 1-22 and 2-24 (PIT takes Eli Harold, OLB)
2) Traded 2-19 to Green Bay for 2-30 and 3-30 (GB takes D'Joun Smith, CB)
3) Traded 4-17, 5-16 and 6-19 to Seattle for 3-31*

* - I proposed this trade. The other two were computer-generated offers.

That leaves one pick in the first, 2 in the lower 2nd, 3 in the lower 3rd, no 4ths, 1 comp in the lower 5th, 2 comps in the lower 6th and one 7th. It's still 10 draft picks but more of them in the 2nd and 3rd where better quality resides.

With that, I chose:

1-22 (from PIT) Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona St.
2-24 (from PIT) Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota
2-30 (from GB) Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami (FL)
3-18 Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB, Louisville (tweener DE-LB for 3-4 defense)
3-30 (from GB) Eric Rowe, CB-S, Utah (three yrs as FS, played CB as Sr.)
3-31 (from SEA) Andy Gallik, C, Boston College
5-39 (comp) Antwan Goodley, WR-KR, Baylor
6-35 (comp) Joey Mbu, NT, Houston
6-40 (comp) Miles Dieffenbach, OG-C, Penn St.
7-18 Damian Swann, CB, Georgia

This hits pretty much all our needs other than a franchise QB (yeah, right). I think a RB can be found as a UDFA. I don't get many chances to pick Rowe but he's a guy I like as guy with corner and free safety skills - a hard tackler who can fill either need in a pinch. Lacks elite CB skills but could be a FS starter someday. Mauldin is big for a LB (6-4, 260) but has been played as both DE and OLB at Louisville which makes him a good fit in a 3-4 and be insurance if Clowney can't go. Mbu is your traditional fireplug nose tackle who is not a pass rusher but has enough lateral quickness to occupy blockers and stuff the run. Also had two interceptions in college.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

1) Traded 1-16 to Pittsburgh for 1-22 and 2-24 (PIT takes Eli Harold, OLB)
2) Traded 2-19 to Green Bay for 2-30 and 3-30 (GB takes D'Joun Smith, CB)
3) Traded 4-17, 5-16 and 6-19 to Seattle for 3-31*

* - I proposed this trade. The other two were computer-generated offers.
1-22 (from PIT) Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona St.
2-24 (from PIT) Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota
2-30 (from GB) Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami (FL)
3-18 Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB, Louisville (tweener DE-LB for 3-4 defense)
3-30 (from GB) Eric Rowe, CB-S, Utah (three yrs as FS, played CB as Sr.)
3-31 (from SEA) Andy Gallik, C, Boston College
5-39 (comp) Antwan Goodley, WR-KR, Baylor
6-35 (comp) Joey Mbu, NT, Houston
6-40 (comp) Miles Dieffenbach, OG-C, Penn St.
7-18 Damian Swann, CB, Georgia

I did the same thing and drafted the following:

#24 NT Malcolm Brown
#56 WR Breshad Perriman
#63 CB Kevin Johnson
#82 WR Phillip Dorsett
#94 RB Tevin Coleman
#95 ILB Ben Heeney
#175 DE Derrick Lott
#225 RB Karlos Williams
6-40 CB Justin Coleman
7-18 OL Andrew Donnal

Unfortunately, Chickillo was drafted right after Perriman and before Johnson. I like the idea of the trades you made.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I did the same thing and drafted the following:

#24 NT Malcolm Brown
#56 WR Breshad Perriman
#63 CB Kevin Johnson
#82 WR Phillip Dorsett
#94 RB Tevin Coleman
#95 ILB Ben Heeney
#175 DE Derrick Lott
#211 RB Karlos Williams
#216 CB Justin Coleman
#235 OL Andrew Donnal .

#24 WR Devante Parker
#56 DE Henry Anderson
#63 OLB Anthony Chickillo
#82 OL Donovan Smith
#94 WR Tyler Lockett
#95 ILB Ben Heeney
#175 RB Tyler Varga
#211 QB Shane Carden
#216 DB Craig Mager
#235 DB Damian Swann

[painekiller]

This DraftTek draft is interesting

16 Jaelen Strong Arizona St WRF 6'4" 205
51 Quinten Rollins Miami (OH) CB 6'0" 203
82 Ameer Abdullah Nebraska RBC 5'9" 194
116 Ben Heeney Kansas ILB 6'0" 231
152 Lynden Trail Norfolk State OLB34 6'7" 269
175 Xavier Williams Northern Iowa DE34 6'3" 309
195 Jesse James Penn State TE 6'7" 254
211 J.J. Nelson UAB WRS 5'11" 160
216 Tevin McDonald Eastern Washington FS 5'11" 200
235 Vince Mayle Washington State WRF 6'3" 219

The kid at 152 is really interesting.
This is his JR highlight reel
And he can play TE

[Blitzwood]

This is one of my favorite times of the year. I've been reading and studying alot of the drafts here and finally decided to do one.

#16 S Landon Collins
#51 OLB Eli Harold
#82 WR Chris Conley
#116 OLB/ILB Jordan Hicks
#152 TE Jesse James
#174 DE Ray Drew
#195 CB Damian Swann
#211 OT Daryl Baldwin
#216 3-4DE Marcus Hardison
#235 WR Mario Alford

UDFA Gabe Wright

I'm a big fan of Landon Collins and would love to add him to the backfield. I can't recall the Texans ever in their existence having a true stud at safety. He has the pedigree and the experience you look for, and with us being in nickle and dime most of the time, it's a no brainer to get BPA at the S position. He can tackle RB's, he can cover TE's, he can do it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pl6_FcMQfQ

Harold is a great OLB with a good motor and plus athleticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggykZAy4OvU

Conley is a must add, IMO, great hands, world class speed and athleticism, and is a top notch character that fits what the organization looks for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPVipftmes

Hicks has been a stud at Texas, I thought about Kwon Alexander here, but went with Hicks because he's got no prior ACL's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HdnO8FsAf0

BOb is familiar with Jesse James from his days at Penn State, and finally shoring up the TE position is something he's mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg7nTsBWZNg

Drew and Swan are quality SEC players that give us depth, sure tackling, and speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_jlJGscK_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alreaQlU3U8

Baldwin was the ROT for Ohio State and did an great job in his first year to play OT, switching over from the DL. He'll be our swing tackle, but mainly provide some great camp competion for DN.

Hardison is a sleeper, but don't think he'll last that long. And Alford is a slot WR, with ST/return potential. He's small (5' 8.5") a real burner, a polishished route runner and scored more TD's this year than Kevin White, his teammate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxNV_oVerQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umITie6jAlI

Being that their isn't usually a big market for NT's, and we already have two under contract, I took a flyer on Wright and hope he can either light a fire under Nix, or replace him all together.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

This is one of my favorite times of the year. I've been reading and studying alot of the drafts here and finally decided to do one.

#16 S Landon Collins
#51 OLB Eli Harold
#82 WR Chris Conley
#116 OLB/ILB Jordan Hicks
#152 TE Jesse James
#174 DE Ray Drew
#195 CB Damian Swann
#211 OT Daryl Baldwin
#216 3-4DE Marcus Hardison
#235 WR Mario Alford

UDFA Gabe Wright

I have seen several Mock Drafts where Landon Collins is the Texans pick at #16. To me he is a slight upgrade to D.J. Swearinger and they signed Rahim Moore. I'm not arguing that he isn't going to be a good player, I just am not sure how much better he makes the team.

As for Eli Harold, it won't surprise me to see him drafted in the first round. It would be a pleasant surprise to see him available by the time we draft in the 2nd.

Marcus Hardison may fall to where you have selected him, but I don't see any reason why Gabe Wright would go undrafted.

[Nconroe]

Texans website has BOB'S wishlist.

1. Special teams, returners and coverers.

2. OL depth

3. WR depth

4. Safety depth

so, we shall see if this list relates to actual draft or not.

[HPF Bob]

Why would they be honest about their draft needs? Nobody else in the NFL tells the truth this time of year?

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Why would they be honest about their draft needs? Nobody else in the NFL tells the truth this time of year?

Let's draft Ted Ginn Jr 2.0. Better yet, let's trade up to do it.

As an aside, if you look at three consecutive years of drafts and have only one player who has provided you with anything nearing good, consistent production then, yes, I do start to wonder about the competence of the general manager.

[Roy P]

16 NT Malcolm Brown Texas 6' 2 3/8" 319
51 DE Henry Anderson Stanford 6'6 1/4" 294
82 WR Phillip Dorsett Miami 5'10" 185
116 OT Cedric Ogbuehi Texas A&M 6'5" 306
152 ILB Jake Ryan Michigan 6'2" 240
175 RB Tyler Varga Yale 5'11" 222
195 QB Shane Carden East Carolina 6'2" 218
211 CB Craig Mager Texas St 5' 11 1/2" 201
216 RB Zach Zenner S. Dakota St 5' 11" 223
235 WR Antwan Goodley Baylor 5' 10" 209

[painekiller]

DraftSite.com has the following 7 round mock with comp picks.

16 Houston Malcom Brown DT Texas 6' 3" 325
51 Houston Hroniss Grasu OC Oregon 6' 3" 300
82 Houston Mario Edwards Jr* DE Florida State 6' 3" 280
116 Houston Ibraheim Campbell S Northwestern 5' 10" 210
152 Houston Josh Harper WR Fresno State 6' 1" 190
175 Houston MyCole Pruitt TE Southern Illinois 6' 2" 250
195 Houston Robert Myers OT Tennessee State 6' 5" 330
211 Houston Antwan Goodley WR Baylor 5' 10" 210
216 Houston Tye Smith CB Towson 5' 10"
235 Houston Gary Nova QB Rutgers 6' 2" 225

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

DE Henry Anderson Stanford 6'6 1/4" 294
WR Phillip Dorsett Miami 5'10" 185
ILB Jake Ryan Michigan 6'2" 240
QB Shane Carden East Carolina 6'2" 218

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDgAKPjS8EE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZatnTkhT8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4qdjGrs-4A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGZVKLiIxQ8

[HPF Bob]

Is it a requirement that people who post highlight vids on YouTube have to dub over them with really crappy music that makes you want to puke? Just asking. How does this enhance the impact of what you're watching?

Looks like some of these draft sites are starting to come around to our way of thinking.