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Old 03-25-2015, 03:03 PM
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Jameis Winston was selected #20 by the Eagles.
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:26 PM
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If Jameis is there at #16, we take him.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:29 PM
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I have seen some Mock Drafts where Mariota falls to #20, so for the purpose of "What If" - it would be better for the Texans if both QBs were selected before our pick, pushing down a player who would fit into a need. Unless you are one of those people who would draft Winston or Mariota or hope to trade the pick to someone else who does.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:44 PM
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IMO, a franchise QB is the biggest need this team has. Has ever had!! No way they should pass up on Winston or Mariota if one of them is sitting there at #16. Good God we have a Cleveland cast-off, an unproven cast-off, and an unproven 1-yr guy who didn't last a whole game. It would be insane to pass up Winston or MM. And I don't buy into this "BOB's type of guy". What is BOB's type of guy? He has a ~6' noodle-armed QB, a 6'5" strong-armed QB that nobody knows anything about, and someone in between. What is BOBs type of guy? If you have a shot at one of the top QBs in the draft - especially at a value-pick like #16, you fire that bullet, IMO. You don't sit and hope someone (Petty) will be there in RD2/3/4 or that you'll get your guy next year.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:17 PM
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IMO, a franchise QB is the biggest need this team has. Has ever had!!
I agree with your point. I just don't have faith that either Winston or Mariota are going to be a Franchise QB. And the risk if they are a bust is too great.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:11 PM
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I'm not convinced that either Winston or Mariota is the real deal. If they are, there's no way they are lasting to the #16 pick but if they DO happen to get to the #16 pick and we decided we don't want the risk, I'm *immediately* on the phone with Philly, Cleveland and a few others on what they would give for a trade down. SOMEBODY is going to want to jump in and grab them. Then the only question becomes what price is enough for us to pull the trigger on a trade.

I routinely get offers in Fanspeak (again, not exactly real life) to trade down into the 20-23 range for a 1st and a 2nd and I usually accept because Jaelen Strong is usually available (IMO, he's equal to Parker) and then I have the ability to add another very strong player like an ILB, a S, or a C without waiting for the third round.

The results are rather satisfying.
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Old 03-26-2015, 12:00 AM
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Walter has his newest mock up with a few of the extra picks in it. But most of the picks have not changed.

16 Houston Texans: Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
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Todd Gurley to the Texans!? Don't they have Arian Foster? Sure, but Foster is usually banged up, and Todd Gurley, despite his injury, would be too good for Houston to pass up at No. 16. The Texans don't have a quarterback, and it doesn't look like they'll be able to get one this offseason - Brian Hoyer doesn't really count - so they better make sure they can run the hell out of the ball. Foster is too injury-prone and unreliable, so having Gurley in the backfield to split the carries would solidify that aspect of Houston's offense.

Gurley obviously couldn't perform at the NFL Combine, but he did check out positively in the medical. He's ahead of schedule, and many of the teams are reportedly pleased with his progress. He could end up being a steal here, as he would be the favorite to go sixth overall to the Jets if he were healthy.
51 Houston Texans: Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
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The Texans lost Andre Johnson to the Colts, so they'll need a No. 2 wideout across from DeAndre Hopkins. Phillip Dorsett has moved up an entire round after a tremendous Senior Bowl. He also looked good at the NFL Combine.
82 Houston Texans: Sean Hickey, OT/G, Syracuse
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The Texans managed to re-sign Derek Newton, but they still have to find some help at one of the guard positions.
116 Houston Texans: Henry Anderson, DE/DT, Stanford
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The Texans never properly replaced Antonio Smith on the defensive line, so here's a potential solution.
152 Houston Texans: Cody Riggs, CB, Notre Dame
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The Texans could use some depth at corner, as they were in trouble last year when some of their starters went down.
174 Houston Texans: Xzavier Dixon, DE/OLB, Alabama
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The Texans could target an edge rusher early on in the 2015 NFL Draft. If one falls to No. 16, Houston will consider addressing the position. It's more likely, however, that the Texans take one in Rounds 2-5.
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Old 03-26-2015, 12:16 AM
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16 Jaelen Strong Arizona St WRF 6'4" 205
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One last time, goodbye Andre, thank you for the memories! We wish you the best with Luck and hope you finish second in your division the rest of your career, the first spot is ours. Jaelen Strong may not be on Dre's level, but a WR core with Hopkins and Strong out wide with Shorts III in the slot would give the Texans the best group of WRs in team history. With room to develop! At 6'4 and 200+lbs, Jaelen has a 42" vertical, runs a 4.4, over powers defenders on 50/50 balls, maintains body control, and catches with his hands. Not only does Jaelen have good measurables, he shows up in big games when his team needs him most. Mr. Strong sounds very similar to the man he is replacing. The timing of Andre's release could not have occurred at a better time for Houston. ~CME, Texans' Analyst.
51 Denzel Perryman Miami ILB 6'0" 240
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Denzel Perryman is a violent football player. He has been one of the NCAA's hardest hitters the last couple years. When Denzel meets ball carriers, they go backwards. Houston has a hole in the middle of their defense that Denzel could fill admirably. Akeem Dent just resigned a two year deal to add depth, but he is not going to scare anyone. On paper Perryman, Cushing, Clowney, and Mercilus form an incredible LB corp. With the recent addition of Wilfork and the potential influence he has on Louis Nix, adding a thumper in the middle next to Cush will solidify Houston's front seven. In year two, Bill O'Brien's finger prints are already deeply rooted into the roster, adding a couple more roll players and the Texans defense would be set for many years. Meanwhile Vrabel gets another tool added to his toolbox. ~CME, Texans' Analyst.
82 David Johnson Northern Iowa RBF 6'4" 250
116 Charles Gaines Louisville CB 5'11" 175
152 Tyler Kroft Rutgers TE 6'6" 240
174 Leterrius Walton Central Michigan DT34 6'5" 319
194 Xavier Williams Northern Iowa DT43 6'3" 309
211 Kenny Bell Nebraska WRF 6'1" 197
216 Ray Drew Georgia DE34 6'4" 276
235 Xzavier Dickson Alabama OLB34 6'3" 265
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51 Houston Texans: Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami

116 Houston Texans: Henry Anderson, DE/DT, Stanford
I am a huge fan of these 2 players. It would not surprise me if Anderson went in the 2nd round and Dorsett lasted until the 3rd.
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