2015 Salary Cap Considerations

[Nconroe]

Current cap calculation shown here
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/houston-texans/

Shows currently Texans at about 130 m, so if new cap set at 143 Texans have 13 mil or so without cutting anyone.

One thing shows is that this year, JJ is a 21 mil hit which goes down to 12 mil next year, so that helps explain why the cap space is what it is.

And does seem like Andre is going to have to help Texans out atleast some on the cap hit side, he still has a high number for next three years for now.

And Cushing, well, if healthy ok, otherwise, ....

[WMH]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Current cap calculation shown here
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/houston-texans/


And does seem like Andre is going to have to help Texans out atleast some on the cap hit side, he still has a high number for next three years for now.

Actually, it appears that Dre has played his last game as a Texan. All good things must come to an end. Hope he latches on to a winner. Will always be a Texan in my eyes.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...traded-or-cut/

[chuck]

I don’t know how you tell a guy who catches 85 balls that he’ll only probably catch 40. I feel like the role they were trying to put me in I’d be held back from maximizing my talents.

I don’t get how you can tell a guy that (he) wouldn’t start certain games, especially knowing the team and the talent.

“I don’t see why I wouldn’t be a starter in this league. It didn’t make sense to me. I’m pretty sure it won’t make sense to a lot of other people.

I don't necessarily believe that this is exactly how it went down. It might have been, Hey, Dre, you need to take a serious pay cut. And he might have said FU wrinkle chin. And that would be fine.

But if this team actually told him that he would be expected to catch 40 passes next year and not start? Man, these guys have outdone themselves in radical stupidity. What, CJ Fed is going to nab all those balls that used to go to Andre? Demaris Johnson? Maybe they're counting on Posey to have a big year.

I certainly hope they've told Arian that he'll get ten or twelve carries a game next year. IF he starts.

I understand that Andre was overpaid, but that's how it goes. If any of the above is true, well, this team's perennial lack of success is well deserved and unlikely to change, ever.

The team gets zero production from an entire draft and the next year instead of fire the GM they dismiss the single greatest player in franchise history. Amazing.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

I don't necessarily believe that this is exactly how it went down. It might have been, Hey, Dre, you need to take a serious pay cut. And he might have said FU wrinkle chin. And that would be fine.

But if this team actually told him that he would be expected to catch 40 passes next year and not start? Man, these guys have outdone themselves in radical stupidity. What, CJ Fed is going to nab all those balls that used to go to Andre? Demaris Johnson? Maybe they're counting on Posey to have a big year.

I certainly hope they've told Arian that he'll get ten or twelve carries a game next year. IF he starts.

I understand that Andre was overpaid, but that's how it goes. If any of the above is true, well, this team's perennial lack of success is well deserved and unlikely to change, ever.

The team gets zero production from an entire draft and the next year instead of fire the GM they dismiss the single greatest player in franchise history. Amazing.

It's easy to be mad about AJ going out no matter how it happened. Best player in franchise history. And he suffered quietly the terrible hand we dealt him.

But even if they tried to force him to walk with ridiculous demands, the logical side of me says "as long as he's gone it's a good thing." The only way they could have messed this up was paying him for another year in the name of sentimentality (which is how Bob Mcnair messed this same decision up a year ago).

[Keith]

The team saved $11.5M on the cap in base salary and roster bonus. Andre's production in 2015 was never going to be worth that. To paraphrase a movie quote from one of my favorite films, Moneyball, getting Andre off the Texans 2015 payroll is a good thing. It opens up all kinds of possibilities.

Namely, those possibilities include re-signing the right tackle, the top corner, and the starting QB. Andre's projected production is going to be available on the market or in the draft.

Now, let's extend JJo, cut Graham, and keep building that new nucleus.

[popanot]

Don't get me wrong, I want to keep JJoe, but I think he is next on the 'take a cut or walk' train... Graham, Meyers, Fitz have tickets reserved for them as well if I were GM. I didn't see Fitz do anything Keenum or some other schelp couldn't do for half the price.

I'd rather pay Kareem, give Mallett a decent bump, extend some of the other young guys while they might be cheap(er) and maybe take a shot at a good FA or two.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by popanot

I didn't see Fitz do anything Keenum or some other schelp couldn't do for half the price.

I'd much prefer Fitzy over Keenum. Fitzy was fairly capable of playing a checkdown, ball control style. This was a QB known for throwing picks, and aside a bad half or two, kept the team from losing games. Keenum OTOH has no feel for the short game. The upside is from the Ravens game where BOB was able to keep him from doing Keenum-ish things. Case got back to the business of being Case against the Jags, and it was hard to watch.

Neither is of course the answer. I'd like to think a healthy Tom Savage can adequately back up Ryan Mallett in 2015. Let both Fitzy and Keenum walk and draft a mid- to late-round developmental QB to run the scout team in practice.

[Nconroe]

Originally Posted by popanot

Don't get me wrong, I want to keep JJoe, but I think he is next on the 'take a cut or walk' train... Graham, Meyers, Fitz have tickets reserved for them as well if I were GM. I didn't see Fitz do anything Keenum or some other schelp couldn't do for half the price.

I'd rather pay Kareem, give Mallett a decent bump, extend some of the other young guys while they might be cheap(er) and maybe take a shot at a good FA or two.

pretty much agree with this.

according to this article , Texans have $146,025,746 in adjusted salary cap space. http://hou.scout.com/story/1522829-c...lead-way?s=116

If I read overthecap correctly if we cut Andre the dead money and cap savings will be dead money $7,319,583 and cap savings $8,825,000. Cut Meyers save 6,000,000 on cap, cut Graham and save 2.4 mil on cap, cut fitzpatrick and save 3.5 mil on cap.

I'm not sure but might be good to keep Fitz as that veteran backup at a reasonable rate.

Hopefully a bunch of last year draft picks will show up more this year and even better next year, they are all young guys.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

Don't get me wrong, I want to keep JJoe, but I think he is next on the 'take a cut or walk' train... Graham, Meyers, Fitz have tickets reserved for them as well if I were GM. I didn't see Fitz do anything Keenum or some other schelp couldn't do for half the price.

I'd rather pay Kareem, give Mallett a decent bump, extend some of the other young guys while they might be cheap(er) and maybe take a shot at a good FA or two.

Fitz was 5 points higher completion percentage, twice as good INT/TD ratio, 8 ypa to 5.6, and a 95 to 72 edge in passer rating. Fitzpatrick is a mediocre starting NFL QB, Keenum is not a starting NFL QB.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by barrett

Fitz was 5 points higher completion percentage, twice as good INT/TD ratio, 8 ypa to 5.6, and a 95 to 72 edge in passer rating. Fitzpatrick is a mediocre starting NFL QB, Keenum is not a starting NFL QB.

Sure, Fitz was better than Keenum and Keenum is not starting material. Not going to argue that. My point is, I don't want either one of them starting and I don't think they should pay the backup (that being Fitz) $4MM on a team that is probably not going to be a serious contender anyway. I'd rather take $2MM or more of his salary and put it elsewhere and let Keenum/Savage/Rookie/Scrap Heap QB/Whoever fight it out for #2 and #3. I'm not saying I'd absolutely keep Keenum, but I am saying I'd absolutely cut Fitz or at least give him the pay-cut or walk ultimatum.