Official Texans @ Cowboys Game Thread, 10/5/2014

barrett · #1 10-05-2014, 03:51 PM

I understand the bad drafting (especially on middle round picks) leaves us hurting, but when you start over with a new staff you turn over the roster anyways. Good drafting those years means we are watching a different coach/qb/team. We are not. This is year 1 and everything going forward is what I can realistically evaluate an O'Brien team on.

Either way the lack of DB depth and OLB talent is not what I finger when we give up 20 points in an OT game and our offense has less that 100 yards of passing offense in the 4th quarter. This team played great on defense today. This team played terrible on offense like we do every week. That is not because of draft issues (unless you count not drafting a QB).

chuck · #2 10-05-2014, 04:19 PM

My overall point has always been unless the team miraculously figures out how to have at least average drafts they will always suck. They wasted Andre's career and I suspect we'll watch them waste JJ's.

HPF Bob · #3 10-05-2014, 04:58 PM

I can't criticize JJo's coverage on the catch by Dez.

I did feel like if we did not cash in on the first OT possession, we were going to lose because our defense looked spent.

We busted two great runs with Foster and I wondered why we got away from it if they couldn't stop it. 2 downs, 2 yards. I wanted them to go for it on fourth down either way and if it failed, it only shortened the death march in the other direction.

As for the draft, let's see what Clowney has after he comes back in two weeks. I heard Su's-Filo did play in the second half but I didn't see how much. Fedorowicz made rookie mistakes but also made some good blocks on the edge.

chuck · #4 10-05-2014, 05:24 PM

Su'a-Filo played one series.

Arky · #5 10-05-2014, 06:52 PM

Early lines are coming in on the Thursday Night game. Looks like the Colts are being favored by 2.5 to 3.

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Foster was brilliant today. Hope he's got something left for the Colts....

nunusguy · #6 10-05-2014, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

Su'a-Filo played one series.

C'mon now, we are gonna write-off the entire Draft already ? Sure, I'm with you in being very disappointed about it to this point, but we just played the first game of the second quarter of O'Biren's rookie season, that's all, his career here in Houston is most likely in its embryonic stage - it takes time in this league to develop a winner and a winning record thru winning Drafts. And it takes time to effectively analyze a Draft, can't do it in one month, and certainly not the first month.

chuck · #7 10-05-2014, 09:22 PM

Su'a-Filo's kicking Bennie Joppru's ass, that's for sure.

HPF Bob · #8 10-05-2014, 09:51 PM

I disagree that the only thing missing is a great QB. I don't think the OL is very good. The TEs are ordinary at best. We let ordinary backs (not Murray, I'm thinking of previous weeks) gash big gains against us and the DBs, while much improved, still scare me except JJo. I don't think we were nearly as bad as the 2-14 record we had last year but I don't think we're as good as the 3-2 record we have now. This is not playoff caliber and I don't care what quarterback you drop into the huddle, it's still not a playoff team. By next year, maybe. But not now.

barrett · #9 10-05-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

My overall point has always been unless the team miraculously figures out how to have at least average drafts they will always suck. They wasted Andre's career and I suspect we'll watch them waste JJ's.

And I think wasting AJ's career had little to do with the draft and some perceived team wide lack of talent. I think the wasting of JJ's career has little to do with the same.

We have played 5 games and not one of those teams was more talented than us outside of the QB position. Today we lost in OT on the road when their QB was 10Xs better than us. That is not the sign of some talent deficient team.

We are losing because we have no QB. It is a drafting issue because we ignored it in the draft, but we have plenty of secondary depth and OLB production to win if we had a league average QB. We have plenty of everything to win a lot if we had a top 10 QB (Andy Dalton/Tony Romo range). We have enough talent to win a superbowl if we had a truly elite top 3 QB. This roster is no worse than the Ravens team that won 2 years ago or either Giants team, or the Packers team. Flawed teams win the superbowl almost every year. We are a flawed team, but we are good enough to win if we properly address the QB problem (hardest thing to do in football and trying to address it is no guarantee we will).