Texans-Falcons Trade In The Works?

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by chuck

I am most anxious to see whether Kubiak was in charge of that mess or if we're in for more of the same this year. I'm not a big fan of Smith's but my guess is that he took a back seat on draft day.

We may discover that that was a good thing.

I doubt Kubiak had much say in defensive picks.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Did you see the NFL Nation blog mock on ESPN.com? Texans traded down to Buffalo at #9 in return for Buffalo's 1 and 2 plus a 1 and 3 in 2015 and a 2 in 2016 then somehow magically Bortles in there at #9. Don't think the Texans would do something so foolish or risky if Bortles is their target.

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I'd do that deal, but then I don't see much difference if any between Bortles and any of the other top 6 or 7 QB prospects so I would be content to take the "pick of the litter" of the QBs that remain on the Board when I'm using my 2.1 and the 1.9 from the Bills gives you an Anthony Barr if you want a pass-rusher or a maybe a Taylor Lewan or a Jake Matthews if you want to finally solidify that Oline. And plus that's a lot of picks next year.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

I didnt see sex criminal in any writeups. I found 18 year old drunk and disorderly conduct during spring break. 2k fine with 40 hours community service does not equate to what Ben Rothelsberger did same week.

I'd have to check carefully but on surface innuendo and rumors don't seem to fit actual person.

Certainly last year draftee from LSU should not affect analysis this year. No guilt by association.

It was two counts of sexual battery. A misdemeanor, and not nearly as heinous as some other sex crimes, but still a sex crime and not what an image-conscious owner wants on his QB's resume. If that's his only transgression then they may be willing to write it off as a moment of youthful, drunken stupidity from which he's learned his lesson, but I guarantee he was grilled about it in team interviews and they've looked closely into his off-the-field activities, especially his use of alcohol.

[Nconroe]

Yes, agree, likely have all types private investigators and personality physchologists verifications and extra blood tests for these guys.

[barrett]

The draft coverage is a joke this year. It blows my mind how many people lap up 24 hour a day coverage for 2 straight months. It also depresses me since it means they'll likely keep the ridiculous May draft date and do it all over again next year.

Nothing like GMs and 'writers' (and I use that term loosely in the internet age) making up stories and lying to each other and readers/fans, and then 'analysts' giving their take to the made up published reports.

Any player that makes a big move up or down media draft boards since the season ended is hilarious. Guys play 3-4 years of college football and produce hundreds of hours of defining game film. Then the media feeds amateur draftniks mocks and planted stories to create new identities for guys who are already known based on film.

And in the end a team takes a player to great fanfare or anger, and then 6 months later nobody cares about draft position and all that matters is on field production again. The whole thing is a self perpetuating fantasy.

I can't wait until I get to be a fan of actual football again instead of having the NFL and ESPN stuff the draft down my throat.

[WMH]

From PFT:
Texans asked for an RG3-type deal for first overall pick

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 7, 2014, 6:59 PM EDT

If the Texans are going to move down from the first overall pick in the draft, they want a huge bounty of picks. Which means they’re probably not trading down.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, when a team with a Top 10 pick contacted the Texans to ask what it would take to trade up to No. 1, the Texans responded that it would take what Washington packaged to move up and draft Robert Griffin III two years ago: Three first-round picks and a second-round pick.

“The Houston Texans said, ‘If you want our pick, it’s three number ones and a two,’” Glazer said. “When RG3 was traded, that’s what they got. . . . But, no. No one’s giving up three number ones and a two.”

What we don’t know is where in the Top 10 that team wanted to move up from. It’s possible that the Texans might be willing to accept less if a team in the 2-4 range asked them to move down just a couple spots. Glazer added that the Texans’ trade demands are on “a sliding scale,” meaning they’d ask for more compensation the further back they were going to move.

But as it stands, it sounds like, given what the Texans are demanding, they’re keeping the first overall pick.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

The draft coverage is a joke this year. ...............

I can't wait until I get to be a fan of actual football again instead of having the NFL and ESPN stuff the draft down my throat.

Last year, I put the TV on NFLN, muted so I could watch the ticker and turned on the radio to 610. Worked pretty good. (Radio) 610 coverage is actually pretty good and is Texans-centric. Can't handle too much of Mayock/Kiper/Berman....

I'll probably watch the first few picks straight from the TV and then go to the above format....

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Arky

Last year, I put the TV on NFLN, muted so I could watch the ticker and turned on the radio to 610. Worked pretty good. (Radio) 610 coverage is actually pretty good and is Texans-centric. Can't handle too much of Mayock/Kiper/Berman....

I'll probably watch the first few picks straight from the TV and then go to the above format....

Awesome call. I can't believe I've never done this on draft day because it's what I do every game day. Nice work.

[Warren]

If you're turning off the audio, I'd go with ESPN. I watched the NFLN coverage for the first time last year and it was very noticeable how little game footage of the players they showed, I guess because ESPN owns so much of it.

I freely admit my bias, but I think the Texans are making a big mistake if they pass on Manziel. And another one if they take Clowney. If they don't go with Johnny, I'd much rather have Mack.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Warren

If you're turning off the audio, I'd go with ESPN. I watched the NFLN coverage for the first time last year and it was very noticeable how little game footage of the players they showed, I guess because ESPN owns so much of it.

I freely admit my bias, but I think the Texans are making a big mistake if they pass on Manziel. And another one if they take Clowney. If they don't go with Johnny, I'd much rather have Mack.

Ya, but ESPN also has little pre-recorded tapes of these young men standing in front of a camera usually playing with a football.... it's like the cameraman says, "do something silly and show America what a douche you are". Eheh.

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Got to remember it's the Texans here.... anything can happen. Even if they take Clowney at #1 it may be possible they have a pre-arranged deal with someone else in the top 10....

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Arky

Ya, but ESPN also has little pre-recorded tapes of these young men standing in front of a camera usually playing with a football.... it's like the cameraman says, "do something silly and show America what a douche you are". Eheh.

I'd forgotten about those things. Turrible.

[chuck]

Kiper + Berman = mute

I have ESPN on but muted in case they do something crazy like interview someone from the Texans. I've got the NFL.com streaming online and they're fine. I'll get 610 going here in a second.