Texans Release TE Owen Daniels & DB Brice McCain

[Keith]

Cutting Daniels saves $4.5 million on the salary cap. Broken leg from last season should be healed by now.

Letting McCain go saves $900k on the cap as well.

[BigBull]

Hopefully there will be more cuts to come today. Please let Schaub be one of those.

[chuck]

I could be mistaken but I believe there's some significant advantage to the team's waiting until July to release Schaub.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by chuck

I could be mistaken but I believe there's some significant advantage to the team's waiting until July to release Schaub.

Yes, could effect the draft strategy and what the other teams think the Texans will do (in the draft). Cutting Schaub only helps out Schaub....

[HPF Bob]

IIRC, guys with lots of money and multiple years left on the contract can be cut after June 1st and half the cap penalty can be deferred to the following season.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Arky

Cutting Schaub only helps out Schaub....

...and it helps Schaub's new team by cutting him now. The Texans v1.0 would have cut him now if he wasn't in their plans. This latest version has apparently removed the "nice guy" bug...

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Keith

...and it helps Schaub's new team by cutting him now. The Texans v1.0 would have cut him now if he wasn't in their plans. This latest version has apparently removed the "nice guy" bug...

Ya, I think you don't toss a guy who gave you a good 6 or 7 years of football on the side of the road like a broken washing machine... OTOH, I don't think there will be any goodbye press conference coming up...

So however they do it, I'd say the odds are pretty heavy he's a goner....

[nunusguy]

2013 was a Brad Lidge kinda year for Schaub. So do I think Schaub will regain his "stuff" ? I dunno, but I know that Lidge did after he moved to Philly.
In the meantime FWIW some are saying that Schaub has some trade value. Sound crazy ? Well, the word is that certain teams who are hurting for a QB and who still have lots of cap space would consider forking over a late-round pick to absorb a contract like Schaubs for his services for a year or two.

[popanot]

If they end up cutting Schaub I hope they eat the whole cap hit this year rather than spreading it over to 2015. Eat as much as you can of any cap hits now and be done with it.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

2013 was a Brad Lidge kinda year for Schaub. So do I think Schaub will regain his "stuff" ? I dunno, but I know that Lidge did after he moved to Philly.
In the meantime FWIW some are saying that Schaub has some trade value. Sound crazy ? Well, the word is that certain teams who are hurting for a QB and who still have lots of cap space would consider forking over a late-round pick to absorb a contract like Schaubs for his services for a year or two.

I don't follow the Astros as much so I am not sure, but I don't remember Lidge all of a sudden throwing 10 MPH slower.

Schaub is a totally different guy physically than 2011. Even if he gets back to a good place mentally and gets on a team that gives him a fresh start, he still has 75% of the arm strength and even less mobility than he had a few years ago. Corners are never going to back off of him because they know he can't go deep. So they squat on the short routes and pounce for the pick 6. Even Andre Johnson sprinting at them doesn't cause them to back pedal. They simply know Schaub can't beat them deep.

This is part of what makes what Peyton Manning did so impressive last year. He has no arm and no ability to stretch the field vertically, and no ability to move. And yet with great weapons, great pre-snap reads, correct decision making, and HUGE anticipation, he was able to dissect most of the league. At least until Seattle camped on him like he was Matt Schaub and dared him to go deep.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

I don't follow the Astros as much so I am not sure, but I don't remember Lidge all of a sudden throwing 10 MPH slower.

I don't follow the Astros or MLB that much either, but I remember the saga of Brad Lidge and know that he lost it in Houston, really lost his confidence more than anything else, he couldn't get anybody out when he needed to and that's bad for a relief pitcher. So he left the Astros, but regained his form, and was part of the Phillies team that won a WS. Now I'm not saying ths Schaub is gonna go win a SB with another team, but I could imagine a comeback

Originally Posted by barrett

Schaub is a totally different guy physically than 2011. Even if he gets back to a good place mentally and gets on a team that gives him a fresh start, he still has 75% of the arm strength and even less mobility than he had a few years ago. Corners are never going to back off of him because they know he can't go deep. So they squat on the short routes and pounce for the pick 6.

One of the best best games I ever Schaub play was in Denver in 2012, so that's since the 2011 lisfranc injury. And you mentioned the Seattle game, well you know he and the Texans were beating the crap out of them deep into the 3rd quarter, then Sherman made that pick-6 and every thing turned around. Maybe Schaub suddenly got old and decrepit after he threw that pick-6 to Sherman last fall ? Or maybe OD just didn't step into the pass and block out Sherman like he should've on the play. All I know is the roof fell in
on the Texans.