Duane Brown

[barrett]

I can rewatch it a hundred times and it is still obvious to me that Schaub hurt them more than the OL in the first half. Take away the two interceptions and its a different game. Not to mention he ate the ball about 5 seconds into a passing play for a sack when he was already out of the pocket. And he was off on numerous other passes. He looked like the start of the Dallas game, but this time he didn't get a chance to right the ship before it sank.

As for Sage... you guys must be kidding me. He is great at moving the offense, but decision making isn't a strong suit. He throws a ball up for grabs or tries to force one in every other series. He is like Brett Favre without the arm sometimes.

The bottom line is we had a bad early break and a turnover that put us in a big hole. This team is not built to play from behind. The run game gets eliminated and the play action with it. It's like watching Denver games. They would get blown out in playoff seasons once or twice just because they could not drop back and pass without a boot or a play action.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by barrett

I can rewatch it a hundred times and it is still obvious to me that Schaub hurt them more than the OL in the first half. Take away the two interceptions and its a different game. Not to mention he ate the ball about 5 seconds into a passing play for a sack when he was already out of the pocket. And he was off on numerous other passes. He looked like the start of the Dallas game, but this time he didn't get a chance to right the ship before it sank.

watch it once again for me, take like 5 pass plays/5 run plays, average out the number of seconds schaub has to throw or until he's sacked & for runs how many defenders were in the backfield when the RB got the ball. the int's are on schaub, no doubt, but i think he was getting a little panicked due to the lack of support up front. he got too much put on his shoulders and he couldn't handle it.

As for Sage... you guys must be kidding me. He is great at moving the offense, but decision making isn't a strong suit. He throws a ball up for grabs or tries to force one in every other series. He is like Brett Favre without the arm sometimes.

i think it is more of...."by that point, just take schaub out and put in sage" not totally replace him on the depth chart. like you said, we're not built to play from behind so we were going gunslinger but with the wrong slinger. we needed brett-favre-lite at the end.

[sinnister]

Originally Posted by barrett

I can rewatch it a hundred times and it is still obvious to me that Schaub hurt them more than the OL in the first half. Take away the two interceptions and its a different game. Not to mention he ate the ball about 5 seconds into a passing play for a sack when he was already out of the pocket. And he was off on numerous other passes. He looked like the start of the Dallas game, but this time he didn't get a chance to right the ship before it sank.

As for Sage... you guys must be kidding me. He is great at moving the offense, but decision making isn't a strong suit. He throws a ball up for grabs or tries to force one in every other series. He is like Brett Favre without the arm sometimes.

The bottom line is we had a bad early break and a turnover that put us in a big hole. This team is not built to play from behind. The run game gets eliminated and the play action with it. It's like watching Denver games. They would get blown out in playoff seasons once or twice just because they could not drop back and pass without a boot or a play action.

Point 1: I disagree. The OL was the biggest problem in the game, specifically the interior, but as a whole, they sucked. Schaub did try to do too much as the rout started, which made problems worse, but this was a result of the OL not doing anything in the run or pass game. If we don't block better, we can hang this season up.

Point 2: I agree. Sage doesnt have the arm, makes poor reads at times, but is a better short drop passer than Schaub. Schaub clearly has much greater upside.

3: Right again. This team isnt good enough to play a team like Pittsburgh from behind. Their D is too good, and their offense is good as well. We had to play a perfect game, and we didnt. Hard to read about next week.

[cadams]

Brown was not lights out, but I didn't think his play was awful. He wasn't stellar, but there were other line issues much more glaring than him.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by cadams

Brown was not lights out, but I didn't think his play was awful. He wasn't stellar, but there were other line issues much more glaring than him.

Yup, the middle was a real problem especially at center.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by edo783

Yup, the middle was a real problem especially at center.

yup, he got pushed around all day long.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by sinnister

Point 1: I disagree. The OL was the biggest problem in the game, specifically the interior, but as a whole, they sucked. Schaub did try to do too much as the rout started, which made problems worse, but this was a result of the OL not doing anything in the run or pass game. If we don't block better, we can hang this season up.

Point 2: I agree. Sage doesnt have the arm, makes poor reads at times, but is a better short drop passer than Schaub. Schaub clearly has much greater upside.

3: Right again. This team isnt good enough to play a team like Pittsburgh from behind. Their D is too good, and their offense is good as well. We had to play a perfect game, and we didnt. Hard to read about next week.

i agree in principal with 2 and 3 but don't think you can pull your QB in week 1.

[KJ3]

i know myers wasn't regarded as a huge pickup but he got leaned on all day and couldn't handle it. i think i expected more than that, but it's one game...

who is starting RG now/last weekend? briesel?

[NBT]

Saying it was Schaub, no it was the Oline, is like saying which came first the chicken or the egg. Doesb't matter, the coaches need to work these guys overtime on their run & pass blocking, and Schaub needs to spend a bunch of time strudying film of the Ravens tendencies.

I will be there Sunday if Ike allows the game to go on. I hope our play picks up dramatically. If not, we may be in for a long season.

[coloradodude]

Have you guys noticed that Brown will do whatever it takes to stop his man? Several times I've watched him use his legs in an attempt to trip his guy as he's falling down. It's very bvious so I imagine he'll be getting called on it by the Jags game.

[NBT]

It is very hard for a rookie if the interior of the line is not doing it's job. What's with Meyers, haven't we had a perrenial problem with the offensive center position being the weak link in the line before?