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Old 04-29-2013, 07:21 PM
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It's not his size, it's play. He does not look the part in the clips I watched.
I see now, I misunderstood.

We better all hope he can be an OLB in the NFL because he isn't going to be a 34 DE.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:48 PM
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I see now, I misunderstood.

We better all hope he can be an OLB in the NFL because he isn't going to be a 34 DE.
Lance Zierlein had this to say:

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Round 3 – Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU, #99
Z-Report Draft Grade – 4th Round

This draft pick really shocked me to be honest. I’ve heard the rumblings around the league that Sam’s motor ran hot and cold and I heard from agents who recruited him that he was a real pain in the butt to deal with. I know that some teams were really turned off by Montgomery during the interview process. Forget all that – I just didn’t think he fit Wade’s scheme.

I remember speaking to a couple of LSU coaches who were at the Senior Bowl practices about both Sam Montgomery and Barkevious Mingo and how they would fit into a 3-4 as OLB. Both coaches agreed that it would be a natural transition for Mingo, but that Montgomery was “definitely not a fit” because they didn’t think he could play in space. From an athletic standpoint, Montgomery is very average.

The Texans have talked about giving Montgomery a chance at the strong-side OLB spot which is where Brooks Reed is currently slotted. To play there, Montgomery would have to be able to drop into coverage and even cover TEs from time to time. I simply don’t see that. Now maybe Montgomery could fit into the WOLB spot where Mercilus is right now since that position doesn’t have to drop into coverage very often.

Montgomery is less talented as a pass rusher than Mercilus is, but he is more aggressive overall. In general, I think Montgomery could come in and play the run better than Mercilus starting tomorrow. Montgomery shows some pop when he gets his arms extended and gets into tackles. Wade Phillips’ knows who fits his defense better than anyone so I’m interested to see how this plays out.
And the beat writer from New Orleans who covers the Tigers was on the radio with Ted Johnson saying pretty much the same thing. Now he did say that if Sam put on a few pounds maybe he could play 3-4 DE. But a lot of people are not seeing a 3-4 OLB.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:19 PM
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Wade Phillips > Lance Z

Wade Phillips > Tigers Beat Writer

I'm willing to wait and see.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:36 PM
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Wade Phillips > Lance Z

Wade Phillips > Tigers Beat Writer

I'm willing to wait and see.
And Wade Phillips & Reggie Herring > me , I get that. But I know what I am seeing, and I am giving my opinion, just like most of us here do.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:46 PM
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I'm agreeing with a lot of what I'm reading here on Montgomery... he is an odd fit in theory as a 3-4 OLB, and Wade does know better than us.

One thing I keep thinking back to though is that while we were all impressed with Mercilus as a pass rusher as a rookie, he really took slowly to keeping his assignments in the run game. He struggled with outside contain, and teams seemed to run his direction when he was on the field. That said, I saw a little improvement very late in the season from him, and I have to imagine that will continue this season.

So... Montgomery can give Mercilus a breather on running downs to keep Mercilus fresher on passing downs. I doubt Wade is going to have Montgomery just covering TEs all game long. Look, we all kinda wondered how it would work out with Mario playing OLB, and until he got hurt, I think Mario was doing just fine. Of course, it's unfair to talk Mario and Montgomery in the same sentence, but I have faith that Wade will use Montgomery appropriately. Just don't call Montgomery a bust when he maybe gets 1.5 sacks as a rookie.

B.T.dubs... awesome thread. I could watch these videos all summer until training camp gets here.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:51 PM
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Have to say i think we are going to love this Chris Jones kid. What a motor, and he looked almost unblockable. Nice pick up for so late in the draft.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:46 PM
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Re: Montgomery - I echo the concerns but it was a comp pick and I still feel like Brooks is going to be a bust for the same reason (what is a hippo doing in a ZBS?) and that was one of our thirds last year so if we are hitting well enough with our other picks, we can afford the occasional project reach.

Speaking of which, where's Bolden? Shouldn't he be in a starting lineup by now?
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:41 AM
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Re: Montgomery - I echo the concerns but it was a comp pick and I still feel like Brooks is going to be a bust for the same reason (what is a hippo doing in a ZBS?) and that was one of our thirds last year so if we are hitting well enough with our other picks, we can afford the occasional project reach.

Speaking of which, where's Bolden? Shouldn't he be in a starting lineup by now?
With an offseason of working out and healthy eating, Brooks has slimmed down to 325 pounds.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...c-a7f25d6071d2
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Make that a svelt hippo.
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