Official 2013 NFL Draft - Rounds 4-7 Thread

[Arky]

Round 4 complete:

1 Philadelphia Matt Barkley (QB) USC
2 Kansas City Nico Johnson (ILB) Alabama
3 Tampa Bay Akeem Spence (DT) Illinois
4 Jacksonville Ace Sanders (WR) S Carolina
5 New England Josh Boyce (WR) TCU
6 Arizona Alex Okafor (DE) Texas
7 Miami Jelani Jenkins (OLB) Florida
8 Buffalo Duke Williams (S) Nevada
9 Miami Dion Sims (TE) Mich St
10 Tennessee Brian Schwenke (C) California
11 Carolina Edmund Kugbila (OG) Valdosta St
12 Green Bay David Bakhtiari (OT) Colorado
13 NY Giants Ryan Nassib (QB) Syracuse
14 Pittsburgh Shamarko Thomas (S) Syracuse
15 Oakland Tyler Wilson (QB) Arkansas
16 St. Louis Barrett Jones (C) Alabama
17 Dallas B.W. Webb (CB) W & Mary
18 Pittsburgh Landry Jones (QB) Oklahoma
19 Arizona Earl Watford (OG) JMU
20 Chicago Khaseem Greene (OLB) Rutgers
21 Cincinnati Sean Porter (OLB) Texas A&M
22 Washington Phillip Thomas (S) Fresno St
23 Minnesota Gerald Hodges (OLB) Penn State
24 Indianapolis Khaled Holmes (C) USC
25 Green Bay J.C. Tretter (OG) Cornell
26 Seattle Chris Harper (WR) Kansas St
27 Houston Trevardo Williams (DE) UConn
28 Green Bay Johnathan Franklin (RB) UCLA
29 Tampa Bay William Gholston (DE) Mich St
30 Atlanta Malliciah Goodman (DE) Clemson
31 San Francisco Quinton Patton (WR) La Tech
32 Baltimore John Simon (DE) Ohio St
33 Baltimore Kyle Juszczyk (FB) Harvard
34 San Francisco Marcus Lattimore (RB) S Carolina
35 Detroit Devin Taylor (DE) S Carolina
36 Atlanta Levine Toilolo (TE) Stanford

[HPF Bob]

Arizona is having the draft I wanted.

[popanot]

I have no doubt now that if one of these two OLB can play, Brooks Reed will move inside. I like it. I think him and Cush inside would be huge.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...8-a6b2f718c275

[Warren]

Originally Posted by popanot

I have no doubt now that if one of these two OLB can play, Brooks Reed will move inside. I like it. I think him and Cush inside would be huge.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...8-a6b2f718c275

That would explain why they haven't taken an ILB so far. If the young OLBs can step up, that front seven would give Wade all sorts of options to play with.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Warren

That would explain why they haven't taken an ILB so far. If the young OLBs can step up, that front seven would give Wade all sorts of options to play with.

It does seem curious that they're apparently going to rely on a pair of rookies at OLB when they were so reluctant to give Mercilus a lot of time last year despite his production.

[Arky]

Texans on the clock........

Trade!

with Rams...

[Warren]

Originally Posted by chuck

It does seem curious that they're apparently going to rely on a pair of rookies at OLB when they were so reluctant to give Mercilus a lot of time last year despite his production.

It might just be a matter of necessity. Last year they had the luxury of spotting Mercilus behind Barwin and Reed, who were both coming off productive seasons.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Warren

It might just be a matter of necessity. Last year they had the luxury of spotting Mercilus behind Barwin and Reed, who were both coming off productive seasons.

Unless Mercilus missed a bunch of assignments in the running game that I'm unaware of for some reason I think it's plain that he outplayed either of them. Playing a rookie sparingly at the outset seems fine to me but when he demonstrates that he makes things happen on the field he should stay there.

Anyway, that's water under the bridge.

[Roy P]

I'd like a CB, a TE, and a NT. Jordan Poyer, Josh Boyd, and I don't know who at TE

[Warren]

Thinking about this a little more, if Reed does go inside, what does the nickel front look like?

DE/OLB Montgomery
DL Watt
DL Smith
DE/OLB Mercilus
LB Cushing
LB Reed

Not only is that a lot of pass rush ability on the field, but also a lot of versatility. I could see Wade moving Reed in particular around to create some real mismatches.

[chuck]

As soon as someone figures out what we got for giving up that pick please let us know.

[Arky]

Texans get the Rams two 6th round picks in the trade radio is reporting..... That means the Texans have four 6th round picks....

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Warren

Thinking about this a little more, if Reed does go inside, what does the nickel front look like?

DE/OLB Montgomery
DL Watt
DL Smith
DE/OLB Mercilus
LB Cushing
LB Reed

Not only is that a lot of pass rush ability on the field, but also a lot of versatility. I could see Wade moving Reed in particular around to create some real mismatches.

Just gonna have a single inside backer in the nickel.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Just gonna have a single inside backer in the nickel.

If Reed is one of those ILBs, though, do they take him off the field on passing downs?

[chuck]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Just gonna have a single inside backer in the nickel.

Traditionally, yes. I think Warren's point is that Wade has the ability, the personnel, to get more speed on the field in passing situations. That's the whole point of the 3-4 to begin with. Do you think a QB looking at 3rd and 8 would be more troubled by Brooks Reed or Earl Mitchell?

Thanks for the feedback, everyone.

[Warren]

NFL.com draft tracker is showing two 6ths, #184 and 198.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

I have no doubt now that if one of these two OLB can play, Brooks Reed will move inside. I like it. I think him and Cush inside would be huge.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...8-a6b2f718c275

Last year we were pretty strong setting the edge vs rushing plays with Barwin & Reed, so I wonder how much of a drop-off they might risk with Mercilus and a rookie in their places ?

[popanot]

So ticked Seattle took Luke Willson in front of us. That's 3 players so far (Brown, Lemoneire and Willson) that I wanted the Texans to get that we're snagged right before our pick.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Arizona is having the draft I wanted.

Ya, Arizona and SF are the two teams that jump out to me as having good drafts....

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Arky

Ya, Arizona and SF are the two teams that jump out to me as having good drafts....

Saint Louis looks pretty good to me.