Kubiak and Smith Contracts Extended

[popanot]

Only thing I begrudge Kubiak for is wasting 4+ years on trash DC's, how slow he's been on identifying a weakness and fixing it (RB/S/CB in years past), and his boneheaded officiating challenges. As chuck said, he wasn't so bad in that regard last year. Nothing glaring, at least. We'll see...

UPDATE - Haven't seen the money #'s (not that it really matters), but per John Clayton, the length is as follows:

John Clayton ‏@ClaytonESPN
Gary Kubiak's extension through 2014 is well-earned, but the extension of GM Rick Smith through 2016 will allow this team to have nice run

EDIT:
Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield
McNair re-did Kubiak's contract this year and gave him a new 3-year deal. Smith got a 4-year extension #Texans

Per sources, Kubiak refused a 4yr deal and opted for a 3yr deal.

[Joshua]

I just find it odd that our coaches and front office guys can't play out their contracts, but we make Mario, Arian, Schaub, Duane, and Barwin play out theirs. Wish we would take the same approach with our better players that we take with our decent, but by no means great (at least not yet) coach and GM.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Joshua

I just find it odd that our coaches and front office guys can't play out their contracts, but we make Mario, Arian, Schaub, Duane, and Barwin play out theirs. Wish we would take the same approach with our better players that we take with our decent, but by no means great (at least not yet) coach and GM.

What did we not do with foster?

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by barrett

What did we not do with foster?

What I meant by that is that they seemed to take the position with him that he had to prove he wasn't a 1 year wonder. Kubiak arguably falls in that camp as well but he doesn't have to prove he wasnt a 1 year wonder.

Having said all this, I'm not upset the re-upped him. I do wish they did a better job of getting their main guys re-upped. Admittedly, I picking nits.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Joshua

What I meant by that is that they seemed to take the position with him that he had to prove he wasn't a 1 year wonder. Kubiak arguably falls in that camp as well but he doesn't have to prove he wasnt a 1 year wonder.

Having said all this, I'm not upset the re-upped him. I do wish they did a better job of getting their main guys re-upped. Admittedly, I picking nits.

Foster had 35 games and 27 starts in his career before he signed his deal. He definitely had no room to complain (and he didn't). The only thing that seemd like a 'delay' in getting new deal was that his initial deal as an UDFA was shorter than a normal rookie deal, so he got to RFA faster than guys are supposed to.

As for treating kubiak and the guys the same, I get what you are saying in general. I think it is harder for a coach sometimes since they can't get anyone to work for them if they are in their last year, but I don't think we were hiring anyways this year for any assistant spots.

I am neutral on this extension. It is not my money so I am fine with McNair rewarding Kubs as long as he is willing to eat the deal if it becomes necessary to part ways for some reason.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by Joshua

I just find it odd that our coaches and front office guys can't play out their contracts, but we make Mario, Arian, Schaub, Duane, and Barwin play out theirs. Wish we would take the same approach with our better players that we take with our decent, but by no means great (at least not yet) coach and GM.

There's no salary cap on coaches and GMs, that's why. If McNair makes a mistake and has to eat a coach or GM's contract, it doesn't prevent him from signing a new one but if we sign a long-term contract on a player who then turns into a bust, the team loses the cap room that the bad contract cost them.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Per sources, Kubiak refused a 4yr deal and opted for a 3yr deal.

Does that happen ? I mean I guess I can see a strategy here if he's thinking that he can negotiate a better deal in 3 years rather than waiting until 4, but how often does a coach (or player) opt for a shorter contract term than he's offered ?

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Does that happen ? I mean I guess I can see a strategy here if he's thinking that he can negotiate a better deal in 3 years rather than waiting until 4, but how often does a coach (or player) opt for a shorter contract term than he's offered ?

Not often. The two things I can think of are either Kubiak feels so secure that he thinks he'll be in a better position to renegotiate in three years (very foolish if he believes this)

or, more likely, the fourth year wasn't very good so the idea is to take three and hope to get an extension that is better than the fourth year.