Texans Sign Beck

WMH · #1 05-09-2012, 05:45 PM

QB John Beck agrees to terms with Texans -- Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26)

Not a bad option for QB3 or a camp body. Knows system, and can plug right in. If they run with 3 QBs, Case is likely headed for the PS.

HPF Bob · #2 05-09-2012, 09:23 PM

Keenum ought to be on the practice squad. The real question is who is #2 - Beck or Yates? I'd rather see Yates but I would be okay with a camp battle.

painekiller · #3 05-09-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Keenum ought to be on the practice squad. The real question is who is #2 - Beck or Yates? I'd rather see Yates but I would be okay with a camp battle.

There is no way they are bringing Beck in to be more than a camp arm. I loved him coming out of college, but he has shown that he cannot be any thing more than a camp arm.

WMH · #4 05-10-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

There is no way they are bringing Beck in to be more than a camp arm. I loved him coming out of college, but he has shown that he cannot be any thing more than a camp arm.

Disagree. I think he could/will beat out Case for the QB3 spot, IF there is one. Don't think he will beat Yates out for the 2.

From the Chronic:
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...rterback-beck/

The Texans are no longer in the market for a veteran quarterback after agreeing to terms on a one-year contract with John Beck on Wednesday.

Coach Gary Kubiak said this week he wanted to sign a fourth quarterback, preferably a veteran.

Beck, who turns 31 in August, enters his sixth season in the NFL. He should have a smooth transition into the Texans’ system because he spent the last two years playing at Washington.

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan use the same system as the Texans.

Beck, who gets the minimum of $700,000, will compete with rookie Case Keenum for the third-string job behind starter Matt Schaub and backup T.J. Yates.

Keith · #5 05-10-2012, 11:19 AM

They needed a camp arm becasue Schaub isn't going to be thrown in 100% coming off his foot injury from last season. I have to imagine the team will keep Schaub/Yates on the active roster and Keenum on the PS once Sept rolls around. Not sure they'll want to use an extra spot for QB on Beck, especially since there are so many young WRs they might not want to expose to waivers to get onto the PS.

painekiller · #6 05-10-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

They needed a camp arm becasue Schaub isn't going to be thrown in 100% coming off his foot injury from last season. I have to imagine the team will keep Schaub/Yates on the active roster and Keenum on the PS once Sept rolls around. Not sure they'll want to use an extra spot for QB on Beck, especially since there are so many young WRs they might not want to expose to waivers to get onto the PS.

That's the way I see it. Plus Beck who was traded for by Shanahan with a lot of fanfare by Shanahan claiming that Beck had been a target of his for years. Shanahan gave up on Beck pretty quick.

The only plus I see for Beck is he is familiar with the offense and can be an arm during OTAs, mini-camp and training camp. I do not anticipate him making the final roster unless they have concerns about Schaub going into the regular season.

barrett · #7 05-10-2012, 11:43 AM

I agree with pretty much all of this, but I also like that it means we are not stuck with Yates as the #2 no matter what. Yates had a few good moments last year, but got worse as time went on. I think the jury is still out and don't mind a veteran hanging around just in case.

HPF Bob · #8 05-10-2012, 11:47 AM

A #3 quarterback is more like a placeholder. But he does go through the weekly study and prep work so perhaps he can be of use to the other QBs in that regard. FWIW, Beck had his chance with the Dolphins and I think it told us all we need to know. Decent skills but nothing more than a game manager which is pretty much all you are hoping for in that spot.

chuck · #9 05-10-2012, 12:32 PM

Beck's history in the league shows pretty clearly that he can't play. Yet we've seen Kubiak work all sorts of miracles with various quarterbacks so in addition to having a live arm for OTAs this is obviously a no-risk / some-reward move.

And I do like the message that it sends to TJ: do not get complacent.

Nconroe · #10 05-10-2012, 03:39 PM

We did need another QB during practice while Schaub heals up.

Seems JB hasn't done much playing time since his senior year at BYU which was good enough to get him drafted in second round.

Some have said he has good arm strength, guess we will see pretty soon.

A video of TD throw to Jabbar Gaffney
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ine-yard-score

another for TD
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...yard-touchdown

and a nice TD run
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...-4-yard-TD-run

Warren · #11 05-10-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

That's the way I see it. Plus Beck who was traded for by Shanahan with a lot of fanfare by Shanahan claiming that Beck had been a target of his for years. Shanahan gave up on Beck pretty quick.

The only plus I see for Beck is he is familiar with the offense and can be an arm during OTAs, mini-camp and training camp. I do not anticipate him making the final roster unless they have concerns about Schaub going into the regular season.

Yeah, the way the Shanahans tossed Beck aside after seeing him in this offense, despite being such big believers in him last summer, isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement:

Big Shan on Beck and Rex Grossman in July: “I believe in the guys. I’ve been doing this for a long time, and I’m putting my reputation on these guys that they can play.”

Lil Shan in August: "My first year as a position coach in the league, Houston had me scout all the quarterbacks coming out that year. That was the JaMarcus Russell year, with Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Kevin Kolb and Beck. So they asked me who I'd pick if I had the 10th pick in the draft. I told them Beck. They said he's not worth the 10th pick in the draft. I was standing on the table for him. I've never seen a guy play that well in college.''

Beck was beaten out by Grossman for the Redskins’ starting job but was given a shot a few games into the season. After three starts he was yanked and didn’t play again even though the Redskins were going nowhere and Grossman was playing like… Rex Grossman. Then Shanahan re-signed Grossman, gave up a boatload of top picks to move up for RG3, took another QB (Kirk Cousins) in the fourth round, and cut Beck.

I'm all for bringing in a guy who may have talent on the cheap and seeing if they can get something out of him, but he shouldn't be any better of a fit in this offense than he was in Washington, and presumably the Shanahans coach QBs very similarly to how Kubiak does it. Who knows, but I don't expect him to be anything more than the needed camp arm and guy to finish out the preeason games.

barrett · #12 05-10-2012, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Warren;30407]Yeah, the way the Shanahans tossed Beck aside after seeing him in this offense, despite being such big believers in him last summer, isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement:

Big Shan on Beck and Rex Grossman in July: “I believe in the guys. I’ve been doing this for a long time, and I’m putting my reputation on these guys that they can play.”

Lil Shan in August: "My first year as a position coach in the league, Houston had me scout all the quarterbacks coming out that year. That was the JaMarcus Russell year, with Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Kevin Kolb and Beck. So they asked me who I'd pick if I had the 10th pick in the draft. I told them Beck. They said he's not worth the 10th pick in the draft. I was standing on the table for him. I've never seen a guy play that well in college.''
QUOTE]

Being the best of those 5 is not a ringing endorsement.