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Old 03-21-2012, 08:15 PM
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I hear you, PK. I had not seen much of Poe except for the Combine and was blown away by his athleticism. Saw a cut up where he ran down a RB by the sideline, so initially had him #1 since finding an Athlete at that size is hard. I want a Vince Wilfork or Haloti Ngata or BJ Raji or Marcel Dareus - type player as our NT. Then I keep hearing about how he did not dominate at Memphis St. and that scared me enough to move him down. On the other hand, I saw Worthy play 3 games and he impressed me with his motor. So, with my limited exposure, I just feel more confident drafting Worthy & could possibly get him in the 2nd round, so that would be VERY nice in my opinion. His ceiling may not be as high, but I see his floor as a better risk.
If you have chance to watch the other games from Worthy, you will see a guy that does not give consistent effort. I was real high on him before I witness the let down myself. I have forgotten which game it was. But his effort is why he has dropped since the end of the season.

Also Worthy is IMO a DE in this defense, thus a backup/rotation guy. Granted we need better depth at the DE, but I see Randle from UT available much later and able to fill that role.
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:18 AM
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My next board will reflect a change. Putting Poe above Worthy again. Though it may be a moot point if Poe is off the board before our first pick. I will say that out of the non-340lbs DT's, Worthy is the one I could see playing NT. Fletcher Cox & Kendall Reyes are DE's in the 3-4. Guys like Devon Still remind me of Okoye, better as a 3-Technique in a 4-3 ONLY, so I don't list those guys on the Texans draft board.
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Old 03-25-2012, 03:29 PM
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Unless we aquire a WR some other way, I will bet a buck that we don't go defense with our first pick. Besides Wade doesn't like real big NTs in his defense. But it's fun to talk about I guess.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:00 PM
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1. OLB Nick Perry
2. DE Fletcher Cox
3. ILB Luke Kuechly
4. WR Stephen Hill
5. CB Stephon Gilmore
6. OLB Shea McClellin
7. DE Kendall Reyes
8. OLB Andre Branch
9. NT Jerel Worthy
10. NT Dontari Poe
11. ILB Zach Brown
12. OLB Whitney Mercilus
13. OC Peter Konz
14. WR Marvin Jones
15. RB Doug Martin
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:08 PM
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16. RB David Wilson
17. RB LaMichael James
18. OT Brandon Mosley
19. WR Chris Givens
20. OLB Ronnel Lewis
21. NT Alameda Ta'amu
22. OLB Bruce Irvin

23. OG Kevin Zeitler
24. DB Jamell Fleming
25. OLB Cam Johnson
26. ILB Mychal Kendricks
27. RB Isaiah Pead
28. WR Juron Criner
29. WR AJ Jenkins
30. WR Nick Toon
31. RB Chris Rainey
32. OT Nate Potter
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:15 PM
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33. CB Coryell Judie
34. ILB Travis Lewis
35. ILB Keenan Robinson
36. OC Michael Brewster
37. WR Keshawn Martin
38. WR Greg Childs
39. WR Jarius Wright
40. WR Devon Wylie
41. CB Charles Brown
42. WR Tommy Streeter
43. FB/TE Rhett Ellison
44. WR Marvin McNutt
45. OT Tom Compton
46. WR TJ Graham
47. WR Junior Hemmingway
48. WR Rishard Matthews
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:55 PM
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1. OLB Nick Perry
2. DE Fletcher Cox
3. LB Luke Kuechly
4. WR Stephen Hill
5. CB Stephon Gilmore
6. LB Shea McClellin
7. DE Kendall Reyes
8. LB Whitney Mercilus
9. LB Andre Branch
10. NT Jerel Worthy
11. NT Dontari Poe
12. LB Zach Brown
13. OC Peter Konz
14. WR Marvin Jones
15. RB Doug Martin
16. RB David Wilson
17. RB LaMichael James
18. OT Brandon Mosley
19. LB Ronnel Lewis
20. LB Bruce Irvin
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:01 PM
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21. NT Alameda Ta'amu
22. OG Kevin Zeitler
23. WR AJ Jenkins
24. CB Jamell Flemming
25. LB Cam Johnson
26. WR Chris Givens
27. LB Mychal Kendricks
28. RB Isaiah Pead
29. WR Juron Criner
30. WR Nick Toon
31. OT Nate Potter
32. LB Travis Lewis
33. RB Chris Rainey
34. CB Coryell Judie
35. LB Keenan Robinson
36. OC Michael Brewster
37. WR Keshawn Martin
38. WR Marvin McNutt
39. WR Greg Childs
40. WR Jarius Wright
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:07 PM
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41. WR Devon Wylie
42. CB Charles Brown
43. WR Tommy Streeter
44. FB/TE Rhett Ellison
45. OT Tom Compton
46. WR TJ Graham
47. WR Junior Hemmingway
48. WR Rishard Matthews
49. LB Brandon Lindsey
50. QB Austin Davis
51. CB Ron Brooks
52. WR Chris Owasu
53. OG Desmond Wynn
54. LB Kyle Wilber
55. CB Coty Sensabaugh
56. OG Jaymes Brooks
57. WR Danny Coale
58. WR Eric Page
59. WR Jordan white
60. WR Jarrett Boykin
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:01 PM
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I think you and I are the only ones who like Jarret Boykin. I am still trying to figure out why he is so far down on most list. I like the kid, he appear to be a leader and a scrapper.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:25 PM
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Generally, when a guy is listed low on lists and nobody can figure out why when they watch him play, there is something off the field that fans are not aware of. Maybe he is a bad teammate, poor attitude, hates puppies. Anyway, he's good value considering where Big Boards have him ranked.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:28 PM
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I am pretty sure that I am the only guy around who likes QB Austin Davis. Considering Matt Flynn & Ryan Fitzpatrick were 7th round picks, that seems like a good spot.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:56 PM
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If Boykin doesn't like puppies he is for sure a bad guy.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:18 PM
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I am pretty sure that I am the only guy around who likes QB Austin Davis. Considering Matt Flynn & Ryan Fitzpatrick were 7th round picks, that seems like a good spot.
QBs taken in Round 7 the last 4 years.

Who are Levi Brown, Sean Canfield, Zac Robinson, Greg McElroy, Matt Flynn, and Alex Brink.

There is nothing about round 7 that indicates a QB can play and plenty about it that says he can't.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:44 PM
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What it says about QBs in Round 7 is what is says about practically anyone in Round 7. They have a >30% chance of making the roster and probably an >10% chance of being a productive starter but you've got to draft someone so you might as well take an educated guess and go with your gut on someone who probably won't pan out but, under the right conditions, just might.

The other use of a 7th is for exotic positions like FB, P, PK, LS whom every team needs (well, maybe not FB) but are for specialty positions where you'll only carry one. Most teams will either find one in free agency or very late in the draft. Some tend to see a 3rd quarterback in the same light.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:04 PM
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What it says about QBs in Round 7 is what is says about practically anyone in Round 7. They have a >30% chance of making the roster and probably an >10% chance of being a productive starter but you've got to draft someone so you might as well take an educated guess and go with your gut on someone who probably won't pan out but, under the right conditions, just might.

The other use of a 7th is for exotic positions like FB, P, PK, LS whom every team needs (well, maybe not FB) but are for specialty positions where you'll only carry one. Most teams will either find one in free agency or very late in the draft. Some tend to see a 3rd quarterback in the same light.
I agree %100 Bob. The 7th is as good for a QB as for anything else. But obviously the huge majority of those guys don't pan out. I was just pointing out that listing Fitzpatrick (moderately successful) and Flynn (not yet successful) as proof of the 7th round being great for QBs disregarded that the huge majority of 7th round QBs don't pan out.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:16 PM
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Roy, on your board, approximately at what numbers are the breaks between rounds.

Just two more days.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:53 PM
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Roy, on your board, approximately at what numbers are the breaks between rounds.

Just two more days.
1-11 are 1st rounders
12-18 2nd round
19-30 3rd round
31-39 4th round
Anyone's guess after that
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