2012 mocks

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Leave it to Mel Kiper to come up with the most puzzling Texans draft projection:

1. Bobby Massie OT, Mississippi
2. Alshon Jeffrey, WR, South Carolina
3. Bobby Wagner, ILB, Utah St.

CBS Sports also notes that the Texans are unlikely to choose OT Mike Adams of Ohio State due to character issues and also claims that Kendall Wright has fallen all the way down to 3rd round territory due to slow 40 times and high body fat.

Don't forget, this is NFL disinformation season so don't believe much of what is reported. Surely, there will be some legit surprises on draft day(s) but there's also a lot of hogwash going around.

The best was a few years back when somebody tried leaking concerns that Adrian Peterson was too dumb to play RB so everyone should just let him slip.

I think it is pathetic that teams covertly rip guys in the media to try to make them fall to them.

[painekiller]

I believe the reports that Wright is dropping. And if John McClain is to be believed, the Texans will not go WR in the first. The only OLB I would currently be in favor of would be Perry or McClellin . As for other position in the first I don't see the value at 26. I could see Rick Smith trading down.

I'm on vacation this week, just left Canton, on my way to Cooperstown on Monday. I'll be back on Friday or Saturday, so my post will be spotty this week. Hope I'm happy with the early draft picks or I will wear this phone out

[HPF Bob]

I've been to both Hall of Fames and they are a great experience although the baseball hall was the better exhibit. Great time of year to see them when the weather is warm but not hot and not chilly. The difference between the two? The Pro Football Hall still proudly displays the bust of O.J. Simpson while the Baseball Hall won't even allow Pete Rose.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I've been to both Hall of Fames and they are a great experience although the baseball hall was the better exhibit. Great time of year to see them when the weather is warm but not hot and not chilly. The difference between the two? The Pro Football Hall still proudly displays the bust of O.J. Simpson while the Baseball Hall won't even allow Pete Rose.

I have to agree with you about the two HOFs. I was a little disappointed with the football one. But they are in the middle of a major expansion, hopefully it will include more films clips of the members. Also some interactive exhibits would be nice.

The baseball HOF, was huge. They did an excellent job of telling stories. Plus they are a much older sport with a HOF that was open near to the time that the NFL started.

As for the weather, I had to bug out of Cooperstown early due to a snow storm that was chasing me across NY state. It was simply freezing when I was at Niagara Falls.

Glad to be home

[HPF Bob]

I checked out Niagara Falls on my trip up there too. Gorgeous May day with lots of flowers in bloom. I bought a sweatshirt that said "Canada Eh!" Took a friend's camcorder and got to zoom in on the Falls and record while others were pumping quarters into these standing binoculars.

[Arky]

I made the Baseball HOF a few years back. For some reason, it felt kinda like a "circus" musuem..... All the old art and nostalgia..... Joe DiMaggio's locker... I remember it was weird looking at an old rotten plum of a baseball from the 1870's....

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I believe the reports that Wright is dropping. And if John McClain is to be believed, the Texans will not go WR in the first. The only OLB I would currently be in favor of would be Perry or McClellin . As for other position in the first I don't see the value at 26. I could see Rick Smith trading down.

I'm on vacation this week, just left Canton, on my way to Cooperstown on Monday. I'll be back on Friday or Saturday, so my post will be spotty this week. Hope I'm happy with the early draft picks or I will wear this phone out

There are also reports that C. Upshaw is dropping. If true, and he's still there when we are up, I have a hard time seeing us pass on him, if in fact OLB is our target in the 1st. Championship pedigree , SEC, and dominated talents like Massie last year.

Enjoy you're vacation.

[HPF Bob]

1. (26) Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan St. (my choice: Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama)
2. (58) Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida St. (my choice: Sanders)
3. (76) Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina (my choice: Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa)
4a. (99) Eric Page, WR, Toledo (my choice: Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama)
4b. (121) Travis Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma (my choice: Mike Brewster, C-G, Ohio St.)
5. (151) Darron Thomas, QB, Oregon (my choice: Tony Dye, SS, UCLA)
6. (195) Micah Pellerin, CB, Hampton (my choice: Demario Davis, ILB, Arkansas St.)
7. (233) Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas St. (my choice: Randy Bullock, PK, Texas A&M)

[nunusguy]

FWIW Mike Mayock is currently ranking Perry, Chandler Jones, & Curry in that order as DEs and he has the OLBs ranked in the order as follows: Ingram, McClellin, Mercilus, & Branch.

[HPF Bob]

It looks like Fleener is getting some late love on the nets and now a second projection of us taking OT Martin from Stanford.

Also read from Gosselin in Dallas that this draft has "six blue-chippers and 22 who should get a first-round grade", meaning that when it comes our time to pick we are looking at high-end second-round talent. He sees a large group from 23-50s who could all be late 1st, early 2nds in no particular order. Judging from how widely the rankings are for DTs and WRs in this draft, there really seems to be less consensus than normal.

Of course, now that you have 32 teams spreading disinformation and 1001 "draft experts" all trying to be the smartest guy in the room, you're going to get a lot of confusion. I'm always amazed how often the draft winds up looking largely like it should have with a few boons and busts factored in.

One guy whose name will be interesting to see/not see in this draft is LB Vontaze Burfict. There's no question he has second-day talent but he has a UDFA brain and as poorly disciplined as anyone can remember. Does a bad-ass team like the Ravens or Raiders take a chance on him anyway and see if they can straighten him out or will he fall totally out of the draft?

[Warren]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

One guy whose name will be interesting to see/not see in this draft is LB Vontaze Burfict. There's no question he has second-day talent but he has a UDFA brain and as poorly disciplined as anyone can remember. Does a bad-ass team like the Ravens or Raiders take a chance on him anyway and see if they can straighten him out or will he fall totally out of the draft?

I'm betting we won't be seeing his name. Supposedly some teams had taken him off their boards even before his horrible combine and pro day performances. According to reports he just didn't play well -- he missed tackles, was often out of position, couldn't get off blocks, and drew a ton of stupid penalties. I could see the Ravens gambling on a talented guy with character issues (like CB Jimmy Smith last year), especially at ILB where they Ray Lewis to mentor him, but it sounds like even if Burfict had his head screwed on straight he'd still be a marginal prospect. And is the Raiders' new regime going to follow the old Al Davis failed gameplan? That will be interesting to see.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

FWIW Mike Mayock is currently ranking Perry, Chandler Jones, & Curry in that order as DEs and he has the OLBs ranked in the order as follows: Ingram, McClellin, Mercilus, & Branch.

Mayock just did his 1st round mock on nfl network. He has us taking Fleener,

And I can only hope he's right. He said with the play action we run, and AJ always double teamed, expect Fleener to make a big impact on our offense.

I only hope he lasts to 26.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Mayock just did his 1st round mock on nfl network. He has us taking Fleener,

And I can only hope he's right. He said with the play action we run, and AJ always double teamed, expect Fleener to make a big impact on our offense.

I only hope he lasts to 26.

I saw his Draft show last night and a lot of his picks were out of "left-field", but who's to say he's not got it right ? We'll find out soon.
I don't think Kubiak will draft this TE or any TE with a first round pick, just like I won't believe they would draft an interior OLineman in the first-round until I see it happen. It's not their history as their current roster has 4th rounders at TE and no body taken higher than the late rounds in the interior OLine except for Caldwell in the third a couple years ago.
Assuming one of the rush-LBs they covet is not on the Board at 26, it seems the chances of an OT in the first keep getting better if there's any truth at all to the rumors coming out of Reliant that they will wait until the second round to get a WR.