2012 mocks

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

While I respect that thinking, the only receiver in this draft I would look at as a future #1 receiver is Blackmon. That's the full package right there. All the other receivers are just maybes, including Floyd and Wright. So, if you are looking for A.J.'s successor, I'd say we're too far down the draft board to get him. We're going to be taking the 4th or 5th WR off the board at best which means he's not Andre Johnson and probably never will be Andre Johnson. Maybe these could be Heywood Jeffires but I never saw him as a true #1.

While I wasn't unhappy to see Mario leave because of his cap cost, I listened to all the people who said we need to make sure we can get after the QB. While I'm happy with Barwin and Reed, what happens if we lose one to injury? Do we want to trust that to Braman to fill that void? Having another strong rush LB to bring into the rotation seems just a little harder to fill than a wide receiver.

And I'd be really shocked if the Texans took a shot at Bruce Irvin in the second, give his arrests and jail time. Sounds like a natural for the Raiders or the Ravens.

I do not think you ever find a player like Andre Johnson again. I have been in Houston for almost 50 years and there has been only one player like him and that is him. Just like Earl Campbell, they don't make many like him.

So, that said, IMO Hill's upside is a #1, his downside is Jacoby Jones. Yes he needs to learn a lot before he can play, but he has the potential.

As for OLB, I love McClellin, and it was a coin flip for me which one to take in my mock. But there are other guys available in this draft. As for Irvin arrest, a broken sign is much tamer than the drug charges Braman had against him. Granted UDFA is a much lower risk then a 2nd rounder. And Irvin has gotten his life together since his wake up call in jail for robbery.

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In response to NBT and Bob, I will do an alternative mock using the same list as before.

26 Shea McClellin OLB Boise State rSr 6-3 260
58 Brian Quick WR Appalachian State rSr 6-4 220
76 Mike Martin DT Michigan Sr 6-1 306
99 Brandon Mosley OT Auburn Sr 6-6 314
121 Derek Wolfe DE Cincinnati Sr 6-5 295 (repeat from the last mock but I really like him)
161 David Molk C Michigan rSr 6-1 298
195 Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas rSr 6-1 242
233 Micah Pellerin CB Hampton rSr 6-0 194\

UDFA Philip Welch K Wisconsin rSr 6-2 206
UDFA Jarrett Boykin WR Virginia Tech Sr 6-2 217
UDFA G.J. Kinne QB Tulsa rSr 6-1 234
UDFA Raymond Carter RB Colorado State rSr 6-0 217 (where is Kubiak's son a coaching assistant?)

This is a whole different way the draft could go and I would be just as happy as my prior mock.

We get an OLB that is scheme diverse, He can play in the middle or with his hand down, nice. We get a tall WR with upside, not a big burner but fast enough for a #2. Get a high motor NT he blows up double teams. We get a guy who played both RT and LT at a SEC school. Molk can only play C so that is a strike against him, but he fits our mold for a C. We get a tackling machine from a SEC school, and then we finish with a small school project at CB.

I named a few UDFA that would be nice here, the last one was a slight joke but you never know.

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Charlie Casserly has done a two round mock

26) Houston Texans: Rueben Randle, WR, LSU. Houston needs to upgrade the receiver position opposite Andre Johnson.

58) Texans: Bruce Irvin, OLB/DE, West Virginia. Wade Phillips likes depth at outside linebacker and the Texans just lost Mario Williams. Offensive tackle is a consideration ,too, after the release of Eric Winston.

Stephen Hill was taken at #22 and Shea McClellin went at #28 to Green Bay.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Charlie Casserly has done a two round mock


Stephen Hill was taken at #22 and Shea McClellin went at #28 to Green Bay.

I too, tend to think S. Hill won't be there.

What do u think about:

1. Coby Fleener- #1 rated TE in an even weaker class than OLB & WR.
2. Jared Crick- Would have been a 1st rounder if not for the injury, can be A. Smith's backup this year and starter next year.
3. Kirk Cousins- A backup that will be bought in like Yates was last year, potential starter in a few years.
4a. Nick Toon- Good depth at a position of need.
4b. Frank Alexander- Our third OLB.
5. Gerell Robinson- More quality depth at WR.
6. Lucas Nix- offers versitility at G/OT.
7. John Hughes- NT

UDFA-Tyler Horn C
UDFA-Kendrick Adams DE/OLB

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Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I too, tend to think S. Hill won't be there.

What do u think about:

1. Coby Fleener- #1 rated TE in an even weaker class than OLB & WR.
2. Jared Crick- Would have been a 1st rounder if not for the injury, can be A. Smith's backup this year and starter next year.
3. Kirk Cousins- A backup that will be bought in like Yates was last year, potential starter in a few years.
4a. Nick Toon- Good depth at a position of need.
4b. Frank Alexander- Our third OLB.
5. Gerell Robinson- More quality depth at WR.
6. Lucas Nix- offers versitility at G/OT.
7. John Hughes- NT

UDFA-Tyler Horn C
UDFA-Kendrick Adams DE/OLB

Nice effort. I like most of this mock.

I am not a Fleener fan. Yes this is a weak TE class and IMO Fleener is a week TE, he is only a one dimensional TE. He is not on my list, which mean the Texans take him. I don't have any of the TE on my list this year.

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26 Andre Branch Clemson OLB34
58 Marvin Jones California WRF
76 Audie Cole North Carolina State SILB
99 Mitchell Schwartz California LOT
121 Kheeston Randall Texas DE34
161 Josh Chapman Alabama DT34
195 Josh LeRibeus SMU OG
233 Adrien Robinson Cincinnati TE

Not a bad mock. Not my favorite at the top, and they have a lot of guys way to low IMO. But a few picks in here could be the guys we take.

[HPF Bob]

Draftek will let you play with a team's priorities.

I changed a few, particularly downgrading ILB after recent developments. and it came up with:

26. Andre Branch, 34OLB, Clemson
58. Marvin Jones, WR, California
76. Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
99. DaJohn Harris, 34DE, USC
121. Lucas Nix, OG, Pittsburgh
161. James Michael Johnson, ILB, Nevada
195. Aaron Henry, FS, Wisconsin
233. Evan Rodriguez, FB-TE, Temple

Hmmm. Fits the formula well even though, as Roy would say, these aren't "my guys". Rodriguez in the 7th, though, is your classic good hands hybrid H-back who could take Casey's place if we ask Casey to take Dreesen's place. Not really a solid blocker though. More the receiver type.