Demeco traded to Eagles

[WMH]

Originally Posted by NBT

Where is that engraved in stone?

Really?

OK, what spot would you pull from in order to get another DB on the field?

[NBT]

Originally Posted by WMH

Really?

OK, what spot would you pull from in order to get another DB on the field?

What I meant was, do you have to bring in the DB if the ILB (assuming it is Perry playing ) has the backpedal, and hip turn to stay in?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by NBT

What I meant was, do you have to bring in the DB if the ILB (assuming it is Perry playing ) has the backpedal, and hip turn to stay in?

There is no such thing as LBs with the hip swivel, speed, and DB skills to play DB. That is why they are two different positions. That is why they are coached to do two different things. That is why there are 45 roster spots and different players filling each of them.

You might as well ask why we don't get a QB who can catch his own passes so we don't have to waste a spot with a WR.

[NBT]

Whatever, you are saying there has never been a LB who started out as a safety, or a LB that turned into a safety. Ridiculous!

[barrett]

Originally Posted by NBT

Whatever, you are saying there has never been a LB who started out as a safety, or a LB that turned into a safety. Ridiculous!

I never said that. But if there was a LB or S that changed positions, it was at least in part because they were not cut out (or weren't any longer) for the postions they were playing before the change. There is a reason DBs play DB and LBs play LB. And humans just aren't cut out for both.

Either way we don't need an ILB that can play on passing downs.

[Nconroe]

I think part of the concern with DB's is that WR and TE seem to be getting bigger and harder to defend on height and harder to tackle on weight.

And more teams are going to 3 or 4 WR plus 1 or 2 TE sets all the time, so you have to keep 5 DB types on the field a lot to cover these guys, limiting the number of LB's who can stay on the field. So defenses stuck in some type of nickel quite a bit.

If you could find a LB who could stop the run , and blitz, their main jobs I think, but also cover atleast a big TE closely that would be a bonus.

Interesting Bleacher report ranked top 100 CB
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...00-cornerbacks

and they have three Texans CB's on our roster in top 50, which is pretty good.
Karrem Jackson at 48 ( this is ahead of some big names like Patrick Paterson)
Brice McCain at 22 ( very high at the slot CB)
Jonathan Joseph at 5 (obviiously top tier)

I guess bigger DB's to help defend bigger receivers will likely become a trend of sorts, but speed needs to be there and tackling ability.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by barrett

I never said that. But if there was a LB or S that changed positions, it was at least in part because they were not cut out (or weren't any longer) for the postions they were playing before the change. There is a reason DBs play DB and LBs play LB. And humans just aren't cut out for both.

Either way we don't need an ILB that can play on passing downs.

Actually, there is a player coming out in the draft this year that would fit the DB/LB hybrid type of player you speak of, his name is Lavante David, OLB, out of Nebraska. He's a tackling machine as his 285 tackles the last two seasons proved.

From Dane Bruglar NFLdarftscout: "He flies around the field with controlled aggression, looking natural bursting in any direction with very good first-step quickness. David doesn't have ideal strength to tear through blocks, but where he separates himself from the pack is his ability to find the ball and finish with a competitive drive. Also rare is his ability in reverse with smooth hip action and fluid footwork to drop and cover."

He would be an ideal replacement IMO.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Actually, there is a player coming out in the draft this year that would fit the DB/LB hybrid type of player you speak of, his name is Lavante David, OLB, out of Nebraska. He's a tackling machine as his 285 tackles the last two seasons proved.

From Dane Bruglar NFLdarftscout: "He flies around the field with controlled aggression, looking natural bursting in any direction with very good first-step quickness. David doesn't have ideal strength to tear through blocks, but where he separates himself from the pack is his ability to find the ball and finish with a competitive drive. Also rare is his ability in reverse with smooth hip action and fluid footwork to drop and cover."

He would be an ideal replacement IMO.

Actually he would be a terrible replacement. We are not looking for a coverage LB. We do not need a coverage LB. We also don't need a LB who can't beat a block.

In our version of the 34 the ILBs are unprotected. There is not huge NT to keep the OL off of them. So our ILBs have to be able to take on blocks first and foremost. This is why Demeco did not fit. I would not even consider an undersized ILB who can't get off of blocks. Those guys belong in the 43 with two big DTs in front of them so they can take advantage of their strengths flowing to the ball and diagnosing plays (and that is why Demeco went to the Eagles).

Not to mention our 2nd ILB DOES NOT PLAY ON PASSING DOWNS. So his coverage ability is almost useless. Cushing plays every down, and no matter how talented a LB is in coverage, they are not a better pass defender than Nolan or McCain.