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Old 03-15-2012, 04:34 PM
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i think joshua's point is more about mismanaging the cap than losign good players because they are living up to expectations. particularly, how do you let you best defensive player over the past 5 years go into his final season under his contract without getting him extended when you have some leverage? especially when his cap number last year was 18 million dollars. you could have extended him last year without having to get anywhere close to 50 million guarenteed, and could have significantly lowered his cap number (especially if you had done it 2 years ago).

also, how do you let your starting center make it all the way through his contract. before this past season he could have been signed for a respectable, and probably cap friendly number.

finally, i am happy they resigned foster, and i think the contract is valued about right, but why would you give him a 5.5 million dollar salary the first year of the contract when you could have put that into the signing bonus and lowered his cap number by 4 + million this year? maybe there is a reason,i originally thought it may be about next year, but in reality doing that would have only added about 800k to his cap hit next year as well.

like i said, maybe there are reasons for all of these issues, but it seems like last year's offseason may have been more about luck and desperation than about rick smith actually growing in his role.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:39 PM
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i think joshua's point is more about mismanaging the cap than losign good players because they are living up to expectations. particularly, how do you let you best defensive player over the past 5 years go into his final season under his contract without getting him extended when you have some leverage? especially when his cap number last year was 18 million dollars. you could have extended him last year without having to get anywhere close to 50 million guarenteed, and could have significantly lowered his cap number (especially if you had done it 2 years ago).

also, how do you let your starting center make it all the way through his contract. before this past season he could have been signed for a respectable, and probably cap friendly number.

finally, i am happy they resigned foster, and i think the contract is valued about right, but why would you give him a 5.5 million dollar salary the first year of the contract when you could have put that into the signing bonus and lowered his cap number by 4 + million this year? maybe there is a reason,i originally thought it may be about next year, but in reality doing that would have only added about 800k to his cap hit next year as well.

like i said, maybe there are reasons for all of these issues, but it seems like last year's offseason may have been more about luck and desperation than about rick smith actually growing in his role.
With Mario I am guessing it had to do with the switch to the 34. We had no idea if it would work out, and signing him without knowing would have been foolish.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:14 PM
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And now the Bengals also have signed Jason Allen. -- Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
Wow.......
Jason Allen's new contract is 2 yrs $8.2M w the Bengals #freeagency -- Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora)

Also, Winston to the Chiefs
Haven't seen the actual numbers, but it looks like 4 yrs. $22MM for Winston.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:01 PM
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And now the Bengals also have signed Jason Allen. -- Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
Wow.......
Jason Allen's new contract is 2 yrs $8.2M w the Bengals #freeagency -- Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora)

Also, Winston to the Chiefs
Wow! No way he's worth 4+ per year
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:12 AM
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Wow! No way he's worth 4+ per year
Looks like he is to somebody.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:43 PM
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So, are Texans done with FA now, till after the draft anyways?
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:07 PM
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So, are Texans done with FA now, till after the draft anyways?
Likely so. They "might" re-sign Dresden, but can't believe there will be much more than that. After the draft, they will prolly bring in some vet min type guys.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:49 PM
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Looks like he is to somebody.
Indeed...good for Jason
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:44 PM
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Dreesen signed with the Bengles...


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gent-visitors/.


I'm happy because now we might focus on Fleener @ 26.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:28 PM
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Dreesen signed with the Bengles...


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gent-visitors/.


I'm happy because now we might focus on Fleener @ 26.
Hasn't signed, just making visits.
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:56 PM
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Dreesen signed with the Bengles...


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gent-visitors/.


I'm happy because now we might focus on Fleener @ 26.
I'm with ya. Fleener and OD would give Gronk & Hernandez a run for their money. But Dreesen hasn't signed yet. Still hoping we can find the cap money for him.
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:01 PM
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TE Joel Dreessen says he will choose between the Texans and Broncos by Friday morning. He's also visited Saints, Bengals and Titans. -- John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL)
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:23 AM
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Hope he signs with us. I think his importance to our team is severely understated. An unsung hero. But if he goes to Denver, obviously I can't blame him.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:41 AM
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Free agent TE Joel Dreessen says he will sign with the Denver Broncos -- Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26)
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:03 AM
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I guess Denver could offer more money. Plus hard to pass up receiving from Peyton.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:59 AM
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Probably has more to do with going home than with who the QB is though. Dreessen went to HS in Colorado and of course played for Colorado State.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:24 PM
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Free agent TE Joel Dreessen says he will sign with the Denver Broncos -- Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26)
Saw somewhere that Dressen got a 3 yr, $8.5MM deal. Didn't see the particulars.
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:17 PM
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After losing Vickers & Dreesen, I would like to see the Texans sign FB Owen Schmitt. It would be nice to have somebody on the team who could block in the running game. Maybe take a look at UCLA TE Harkey as an undrafted Free Agent. Just sayin'
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:21 PM
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#Texans WR Kevin Walter took a $1.5 million pay cut to stay with the team. -- Dov Kleiman (@NFL_RealUpdates)
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:31 PM
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Now for the other weak spot on our WRs, Jacobe Jones. On second thought he just needs to go.
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