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Old 08-26-2008, 08:22 AM
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Coordinator are rarely let go during the season, Capers aside, HC's are let go more often during the season, but it makes no sense.

Kubiak is not going to fire Smith midseason. No going to happen.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:16 AM
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why not?

he's terrible at his job, not making this team better, hasn't in 2 years, his replacements are on staff.....

actually, instead of re-hashing through all the reasons why smith isn't a very good DC can anyone give ONE reason why he should get to keep his job?
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:04 PM
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I'd like to see our defense play better too, but for sake of discussion:
1. It is a very young team
2. He inherited a bad defense with lots of personnel changes needed in players and coaches
3. They have improved from year 1 to year 2
4. Give them a chance in regular season and see if improve year 2 to 3
5. They have had some reasonable results in preseason as a group winning two games and possibly winning third, with three turnovers forced last game.
6. they are playing fairly smart with few dumb penalties
7. maybe its the players who need to rush the passer, not the coach
8. maybe it is the DB that needs to knock down pass, not the coach
9. trying to stay optimistic and positive during preseason

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Old 08-26-2008, 03:48 PM
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Smith isnt the only person to point fingers at. Kubiak is the HC. Although he is inheirently offensive minded he does have control of the def. He takes responsibility for it. How do we know that Smith isnt implementing the type of def that Kubiak wants to see? I think it is a good idea, but it may be abit too cutesy without the correct players. And face it there are only 2 real good players on our def right now, Mario and Demeco, most good defenses have much better peronel.

Not only did they transition players from a 3-4 defense, they turned over alot of players each year in injuries and other things. I would be interested to see what the number of starters aver the last two seasons our def has had compared to other teams.

Finally, its preseason. Indy and NE suck it up in preseason every year, and there isnt a fan that wouldnt want their team to have those types of seasons year after year. Wait 3-4 regular season games and see what happens.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:00 PM
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Add to the good points already made. One starting CB is a 2nd year guy, one DE is entering his 3rd year, the other DE that should start is entering his 4th year and it would be his 1st as a starter (Cochran). The starting DTs are a 2nd and 3rd year guy being backed up by a rookie. The starting LBs only have one guy with over 3 years experience. The DBs have 2 starters with less than 4 years.

Guys this team has not had time to mature yet. This and next year will still be growing years for the defense. And they are getting better every year. Remember most of you wanted to cut Mario after his rookie season ( exaggeration). Let the guys mature. McNair has patience, so should we. I still think we are pushing for a playoff spot, just missing but pushing.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:46 PM
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Coordinator are rarely let go during the season, Capers aside, HC's are let go more often during the season, but it makes no sense.

Kubiak is not going to fire Smith midseason. No going to happen.
There's a thing called demotion or loss of power. It doesn't even have to be obvious to the media or fans.
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