Schaub to Miss "Some Time" - Page 2

chuck · #21 11-15-2011, 05:53 PM

How bad can Leinart be? The team doesn't need him to be Joe Montana, they need him to hand the ball off to whichever running back is standing back there and to throw passes over the middle to the tight end and to roll out and stretch the defense with a shot downfield every now and then. Don't fumble, don't throw stupid interceptions. That's it. It's not like Schaub was doing much more than what I've mentioned.

Although I am very concerned about Leinart's being left-handed. Did you know a left-handed quarterback puts a different spin on a pass? In fact it spins COMPLETELY OPPOSITE to what a right-handed quarterback throws!

Nconroe · #22 11-16-2011, 12:08 AM

A few other lefty QB who have done pretty well are Steve Young, kenny Stabler, Boomer Esiason, Mark Brunnell, and Michael Vick. Hope Leinert ends up being mentioned with those guys in future.

HPF Bob · #23 11-16-2011, 01:33 AM

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Although I am very concerned about Leinart's being left-handed. Did you know a left-handed quarterback puts a different spin on a pass? In fact it spins COMPLETELY OPPOSITE to what a right-handed quarterback throws!

For what it's worth, Trent Dilfer brought up the very same point yesterday and added that everyone will have to adapt to a lefty quarterback, from the runners taking the handoffs to the linemen who have to protect the blindside.

So, yes, I expect more drops and more botched exchanges.

barrett · #24 11-16-2011, 08:24 AM

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For what it's worth, Trent Dilfer brought up the very same point yesterday and added that everyone will have to adapt to a lefty quarterback, from the runners taking the handoffs to the linemen who have to protect the blindside.

So, yes, I expect more drops and more botched exchanges.

Handoffs happen with both hands, and they have nothing to do with what hand the QB throws with.

JW295 · #25 11-16-2011, 09:56 AM

Matt Leinart has drastically improved since he played with Arizona. Don’t be surprised if the Texans win a playoff game. He was smart to choose Houston over Seattle.

HPF Bob · #26 11-16-2011, 12:07 PM

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Handoffs happen with both hands, and they have nothing to do with what hand the QB throws with.

But handoffs happen like the snap exchange - instantaneously and without much thought because there are more important things the player has to focus on. Handoffs are like a dance and both partners have to have the timing down to the point that they can do it without thinking about it.

Supposedly, the Texans have been giving Leinart a healthy portion of reps in practice the past few weeks because Schaub was banged up so maybe this won't be an issue but if the exchanges become one more worry in the play execution, that could be a major problem.

barrett · #27 11-16-2011, 01:30 PM

So your concern is general familiarity rather than left handedness? I would hope an NFL team would be able to take care of a handoff. But if not we have 2 weeks of practice to worry about that.

NBT · #28 11-16-2011, 01:53 PM

.....And correct any mishaps on exchanges. Also for the WRs to get used to a left handed spiral on the ball. Two weeks should be plenty. And he is not exactly a stranger, he has been taking snaps all preseason, and during the week sometimes during practice. We should be ok in that regard.

Fonz the Boss · #29 11-16-2011, 05:42 PM

I believe it was Owen Daniels that said that they've been catching balls from Leinart for more than a year now so it is not a concern.

painekiller · #30 11-17-2011, 12:34 AM

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.....And correct any mishaps on exchanges. Also for the WRs to get used to a left handed spiral on the ball. Two weeks should be plenty. And he is not exactly a stranger, he has been taking snaps all preseason, and during the week sometimes during practice. We should be ok in that regard.

I'm ambidextrous and can throw the football with both hands, I like to freak out people by throwing with alternate hands while playing catch. The spin is different, but it's not an issue. It's a mental thing. Now the ball will react differently with a left hander, but NFL receivers should have no issues with the change to a left hander.

The change of QB is a big deal, the change to a left hander is the lesser issue.

BTW I think Leinart will be OK in our offense.

nunusguy · #31 11-17-2011, 07:06 AM

My biggest initial concern about Lienart is that he's had virtually no exposure to "game speed" in 2 or 3 years (exhibition/preseason games don't count). And that's really disappointing because of the opportunities that Kubiak has had to put him in games this year where the victory was sewed-up early enough to get Leinart on the field with the first unit. Besides that's being "smart" to get your starting QB off of the field when there's no longer any doubt about the outcome of the contest.
And you can bet that we'll learn early in Leinarts first game with the Jags game about his ability to throw ball, because the Jags will load up the box with 8 or even 9 people to defense the run. OK yes that means Andre will have only one man on him, but Leinart still has to get the ball to Andre accurately under pressure.

JW295 · #32 11-17-2011, 09:32 AM

Check out this great article about Leinart and what his teammates think of him.

WMH · #33 11-17-2011, 09:49 AM

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Check out this great article about Leinart and what his teammates think of him.

What would you expect them to say to the media?
Very few speak the truth, and almost all of their quotes are the same identical statements as when Arian, Mario, and Dre went down. We will see next Sunday whether or not Leinart can pull this off or not.

I am clinging on to hope that he can manage the O and not do anything stupid, but the logic isn't there. If he can't succeed with the weapons and the D he has, he's done.

We shall see.

painekiller · #34 11-17-2011, 10:24 AM

I'm hoping that Leinart succeeds big time and makes his trade value go up to a 1st round or possible a multiple pick type of trade.

Kubiak has been in this situation before when he was the Offensive Coordinator for Denver. Bubby Brister in 1997 replaced John Elway for part of a game and started 5 games, The Broncos won all 5 games and later won the Super Bowl.

Granted Brister had started in the league with some success prior to this run, Leinart has not had success yet.

Again I will state that I like Leinart's chances and I hope we can trade him for a high draft pick after the season. I hear the Redskins are looking for a QB....

painekiller · #35 11-17-2011, 10:25 AM

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If he can't succeed with the weapons and the D he has, he's done.

We shall see.

I agree that if Leinart fails in the next 6 games he is done as a possible starter in the league.

HPF Bob · #36 11-17-2011, 12:07 PM

This Leinart's shot at redemption and no doubt he will hear the word "bust" around his name for the rest of his life. If he's not supremely motivated to play his best now, he never will be. Kubiak, for all the grief he gets, has crafted a no-excuse offense. He has the backs and the line to make yards on the ground. He has two solid downfield threats, good dump-off options and a play-action scheme that should guarantee open looks downfield if he can sell the play fakes.

IOW, if Leinart can't excel in this offense, he'll never excel as an NFL quarterback. He has to know that. This is his chance to jump-start his career and be the star he always assumed he was. If he lives up to his potential, we'll be fine. If not, we give Yates a chance.

Fonz the Boss · #37 11-17-2011, 05:12 PM

So what would be a realistic expectation for the final 6 games?... 4-2? 3-3?

WMH · #38 11-17-2011, 05:39 PM

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So what would be a realistic expectation for the final 6 games?... 4-2? 3-3?

Tough to get a read on it due to a QB that hasn't played in 2.5 years, and is now in a new Offense. I think we will still be favored in 5 of our last 6 (all but Cincy), for whatever that is worth.