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Old 08-26-2008, 07:11 AM
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i think, if anything, the emergence of david anderson makes jacoby jones expendable. maaaaybe andre davis but i think his 1 or 2 15+ yard catches a game coupled with the fact that if he gets a few blocks no one is going to catch him on a return makes him a pretty sure thing. kevin walter absolutely not. if the bengals wanted andre davis or jacoby jones straight up for rudi johnson i'd be inclined to listen.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:34 AM
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i think, if anything, the emergence of david anderson makes jacoby jones expendable. maaaaybe andre davis but i think his 1 or 2 15+ yard catches a game coupled with the fact that if he gets a few blocks no one is going to catch him on a return makes him a pretty sure thing. kevin walter absolutely not. if the bengals wanted andre davis or jacoby jones straight up for rudi johnson i'd be inclined to listen.
I'd definitely do Jacoby for Rudi straight up, but I don't know that the Bengals would. They're looking for a possible replacement for Chad Johnson, and I don't think Jacoby is a legitimate candidate to do that. But I'd definitely offer either Jacoby or David Anderson and see if they bite. If not, maybe raise the ante to Andre Davis.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:49 AM
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but if we're signing up for "...another oft injured RB" then i don't see a need to trade away talent like jacoby, DA, or andre davis. we've already got them AND 2(!) oft-injured-RB's.

if they're looking for a replacement to chad johnson out of what we have to offer (jones, anderson, davis) then jacoby is by far the choice they would make. anderson's pre-season was nice but he doesn't have the size, speed, or potential that jones has and davis is a finished product so he is a known quantity. honestly i wish they would concentrate jones' efforts more to WR than PR because he kind of sucks at being a PR but that's neither here or there.

i'd have to look at stats before i made any real opinion of rudi johnson-the-hypothetical-texan. can't say that the injury question sits well with me but his reputation definitely puts him in an intriguing light.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:22 AM
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I appear to have had a false impression regarding his injury history.

He's 28, 5'10" 225lbs
Missed 5 games last year but played in all 16 the three years prior. 2004-2006 rushed for 1454 yds, 1458 yds, and 1309 yds. Averaging 4 ypc, 4.3 ypc, and 3.8 ypc respectively. Also, scored 12 rushing TD each of those seasons.

The negatives I can see from his stats is that he has a fumbling issue, which doesn't fly here.

Anyone knowledgable enough to break down his mechanics? From what I remember of him he seems to be more of a bruiser; more of a Jamal Lewis type. But my memory of him is fuzzy.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:11 AM
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yea but fumbles are less of a problem than injuries....to me anyway.

hell, if he played 16, rushed for 1,200, 12 TD that's about twice what anybody else on our team could do. i'd give jones or davis for that.

i also remember him leaning more towards power back but not quite jamal lewis power.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:54 AM
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Rudi's been slowing down the last few years from overuse. Including the post-season, Rudi averaged 350 carries per year from 2004-2006. Not very many running backs in league history have been able to sustain that heavy of a workload consistently without declining. From 2005-2007, his YPC declined from 4.3 to 3.8 to 2.9. He missed a few starts in 2005 and 2006, and then succumbed to injuries last year with 9 starts in 11 games. He might have one somewhat decent rebound season left in him a year or two down the line (akin to Jamal Lewis's overrated year last season or Ahman Green's last year in Green Bay), but he's unlikely to be worth an investment.
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:35 AM
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Andre Davis for Rudi Johnson? Are you guys insane?

Okay, I can see it if we also get their 2nd, 3rd and 4th next year.

They can have Andre Johnson for all their picks next year plus their first 3 picks in 2010...that would be worth it to them wouldn't it?
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