RGIII a future Texan?

NBT · #1 10-20-2011, 01:32 PM

Thanks gents, I appreciate your comments.

If Kubs doesn't turn this team around, and I mean start winning again by beating the Titans, We will be in another dismal 3 year rebuilding cycle, after he is gone. I don't know if I could take that. But then, what's the alternative?

Kubs is trying to turn the playcallin over to the OC and just control the game, but this one is not a Baby Shanny, and I don't think he is taking to it very well.

chuck · #2 10-20-2011, 02:31 PM

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If Kubs doesn't turn this team around, and I mean start winning again by beating the Titans, We will be in another dismal 3 year rebuilding cycle, after he is gone.

I don't agree at all. There is more than enough talent on the roster to where a competent head coach could come aboard and win immediately. There's not Super Bowl talent (yet), but there is definitely playoff talent.

Joshua · #3 10-20-2011, 03:13 PM

Agree with Chuck. I see no reason why a new coach would need 3 years to whip this team into shape. If this is the case, someone needs to call Harbaugh in SF and tell him to slow down. He's 2 years and 10 games ahead of schedule.

barrett · #4 10-20-2011, 05:01 PM

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I don't agree at all. There is more than enough talent on the roster to where a competent head coach could come aboard and win immediately. There's not Super Bowl talent (yet), but there is definitely playoff talent.

Absolutely. Go watch the talentless niners and tell me there is such a thing as a 3 year rebuilding process in the NFL. Nobody is that far from winning. Only bad coaching can lead to prolonged losing in today's NFL.

chuck · #5 10-20-2011, 07:04 PM

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Absolutely. Go watch the talentless niners and tell me there is such a thing as a 3 year rebuilding process in the NFL. Nobody is that far from winning. Only bad coaching can lead to prolonged losing in today's NFL.

Bad ownership can do that, too, definitely. I like the Niners, and I like the Lions, too, for that matter, but I feel like the Texans are better, much better, up and down the roster. You know I'd love to say so if I thought different, but there it is. I mean, Alex Smith? Are you joking?

NBT · #6 10-22-2011, 01:16 PM

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I don't agree at all. There is more than enough talent on the roster to where a competent head coach could come aboard and win immediately. There's not Super Bowl talent (yet), but there is definitely playoff talent.

Hello Chuck, how is the climate where you are? Warm & sunny I would wager. Always nice to hear again from a friendly enemy.

You know as well as I do that a new coach will also bring his broom. Who would you suggest for head coach? One who would keep the WCO, but probably opt for a new QB, #2WR, & blocking FB. Probably some of the OLinemen would be out of work or relegated to backup.

It is more than time for McNair to change his mindset, and go for some of the high profile FAs to augment a team that is 85% there.

But more than likely McNair will go the easy route and just elevate Wade, who is an excellent DC, but not a viable HC.

HPF Bob · #7 10-22-2011, 04:55 PM

There's no question in my mind that if Kubiak is fired in the next 15 months, Wade Phillips will be named the next head coach. One thing we know about McNair is that he's not a creative thinker. He's going to do the most predictable move and that's going to be promoting Phillips. Don't get your hopes up for anyone else.

nunusguy · #8 10-22-2011, 09:20 PM

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There's no question in my mind that if Kubiak is fired in the next 15 months, Wade Phillips will be named the next head coach. One thing we know about McNair is that he's not a creative thinker. He's going to do the most predictable move and that's going to be promoting Phillips. Don't get your hopes up for anyone else.

I sorta thought that getting the HC job if Kubiak was fired was a condition of employment that Wade insisted upon before he agreed to take the DC job ?

barrett · #9 10-22-2011, 10:37 PM

I hope Wade doesn't want the job. At some point you'd like to think he would figure out what he is and what he isn't, no matter how many owners keep being convinced by his great coordinator performances that the head coaching failures don't count.

Of course, he has won more Cowboys playoff games than all the other cowboys coaches combined in the last 15 years.

edo783 · #10 10-22-2011, 11:00 PM

A man has ta know his limitations ........ and HC is Wades. Big mistake to go that route. Not sure Kubes isn't in then same boat .... but, together they may make it work.

chuck · #11 10-23-2011, 12:17 AM

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Hello Chuck, how is the climate where you are? Warm & sunny I would wager. Always nice to hear again from a friendly enemy.

You and I aren't enemies, not as far as I'm concerned. We're all friends here despite the various and inevitable disagreements.

If the team loses two more games before the bye - a definite possibility - I'll start looking seriously into replacement coaches, not because anyone cares what I think but simply to daydream a bit. In something of an about-face I think my current inclination would be to go young and relatively unknown. But smart. I wonder what it would be like to have an intelligent head coach.

I would be happy to upgrade Schaub and Jacoby but I firmly believe the team (when healthy) can win with both. As much as I loved Vonta I am perfectly happy with Casey at TE for reasons that have been discussed here previously. No, he is not the bulldozer blocker that one might wish for but he causes so many problems for defenses that I think that one tradeoff is more than made up for by his versatility.

Yes, it is warm here and lately anyway unusually sunny. November and December are by far the rainiest months here in my immediate area and the rains usually pick up as November approaches. So far it's been relatively dry with more sunny days than I'd expect. Today was spectacularly sunny. I could see distant clouds on the other side of the continental divide (where the climate patters are totally different) and some thunderheads well out to sea, but here it was beautiful. I can tell that the dry season is approaching because the humidity is often surprisingly low during the day. Any of you who lives in Houston or has spent any time there will know exactly how this feels. When I say surprisingly low I mean like 70% or 75% rather than 90%. But the difference is immediately palpable. You'll get some days like that in October in Houston but more often they pile up in November. It's not cool during the day. It's never cool during the day at sea level here. But you can stand around outside and not sweat through your shirt in five minutes. Hell, it might take ten or fifteen. The nights are beautiful. I imagine now it's low seventies, low humidity. Clear skies, lots of stars. I practically never use air conditioning because my house is reasonably open and well ventilated but I very recently quit being a total idiot and covered (and extended) the perfectly ample back patio, put down some nice tile, built an outdoor kitchen along one side, bought a particularly nice outdoor sofa set and a dining table. So I'm planning to spend the great majority of my time out there going forward.

TheMatrix31 · #12 10-23-2011, 05:03 AM

I would much rather spend a higher pick on a WR or safety.

As is plain as day, our WR corps is absolutely nothing without Andre, and is causing us to lose games.

Nconroe · #13 10-23-2011, 10:02 PM

well, you might be right on WR or S, but for me if best player available early is OL, a guard or tackle, I'd be happy to strngthen our OL for when we get against the really tough teams as Baltimore who seem to just run right over us and get way to much pressure on the QB.

NBT · #14 10-26-2011, 11:10 AM

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You and I aren't enemies, not as far as I'm concerned. We're all friends here despite the various and inevitable disagreements.

If the team loses two more games before the bye - a definite possibility - I'll start looking seriously into replacement coaches, not because anyone cares what I think but simply to daydream a bit. In something of an about-face I think my current inclination would be to go young and relatively unknown. But smart. I wonder what it would be like to have an intelligent head coach.

I would be happy to upgrade Schaub and Jacoby but I firmly believe the team (when healthy) can win with both. As much as I loved Vonta I am perfectly happy with Casey at TE for reasons that have been discussed here previously. No, he is not the bulldozer blocker that one might wish for but he causes so many problems for defenses that I think that one tradeoff is more than made up for by his versatility.

Yes, it is warm here and lately anyway unusually sunny. November and December are by far the rainiest months here in my immediate area and the rains usually pick up as November approaches. So far it's been relatively dry with more sunny days than I'd expect. Today was spectacularly sunny. I could see distant clouds on the other side of the continental divide (where the climate patters are totally different) and some thunderheads well out to sea, but here it was beautiful. I can tell that the dry season is approaching because the humidity is often surprisingly low during the day. Any of you who lives in Houston or has spent any time there will know exactly how this feels. When I say surprisingly low I mean like 70% or 75% rather than 90%. But the difference is immediately palpable. You'll get some days like that in October in Houston but more often they pile up in November. It's not cool during the day. It's never cool during the day at sea level here. But you can stand around outside and not sweat through your shirt in five minutes. Hell, it might take ten or fifteen. The nights are beautiful. I imagine now it's low seventies, low humidity. Clear skies, lots of stars. I practically never use air conditioning because my house is reasonably open and well ventilated but I very recently quit being a total idiot and covered (and extended) the perfectly ample back patio, put down some nice tile, built an outdoor kitchen along one side, bought a particularly nice outdoor sofa set and a dining table. So I'm planning to spend the great majority of my time out there going forward.

Unfortunate choice of words on my part, we sometimes agree to dissagree on things. But that is what a message board is for, after all.

Glad to hear you are enjoying the sunshine. It has been awfully dry around Texas this year.

After winning handily in Tennessee this past Sunday, and AJ and Casey will probably be ready, I am a lot more optimistic. However J'ville surprised me by not allowing a first down against Baltimore until the 3rd quarter Monday night.

Warren · #15 10-26-2011, 05:32 PM

To me Griffin looks closer to 6-0/200 than 6-3/210, so it'll be interesting to see what his combine measurements are when he does come out. I don't think his talk about trying to make the 2012 Olympic track team will help his draft status; NFL teams consider QB to be a full time job so he's probably going to have to make a decision. His passing numbers (ratio-wise, not totals) are generally better than Kevin Kolb's UH stats in the same or a very similar Art Briles offense. Kolb did have better yards per completion (13.45 to 12.29) and per attempt (8.28 to 8.25) which suggests that Griffin's ridiculous completion percentage benefits from his going more to the shorter routes.

Maybe my maroon bias is showing, but I think Ryan Tannehill would be a great fit in Kubiak's offense. He'd be tough on the bootlegs the Texans love to run.

barrett · #16 10-27-2011, 08:32 AM

Kubiak spoke very highly of Tannehill the other day on the radio. Not necessarily about him as a player, but as a person. I think his skill set fits our offense well, and I think Kubiak would be intrigued by how raw he is at QB. I honestly think teaching QBs in one of the things Kubs does best. I would not mind a day 3 pick on him. I'm not really sure where he projects right now.

Griffin is not a very fluid player for how fast he is. Looks like more of a straight line speed guy. But he has plenty of athletic tools, solid accuracy and arm, and one of the most beautiful deep balls you will find. I have watched Baylor twice this year and both times he has dropped deep balls into very small windows. Many guys cannot get the ball to turn over in flight, but he drops it right on their head. His size and injury concerns would make me very nervous though. Size and build wise he is like Michael Vick without the escapability. I don't see how he could hold up to the punishment unless he got Peyton Manning good at throwing it away.