Ahman Green vs. Rick Smith

[NBT]

I listened to part of that interview. Green came across to me as a whiney pout that didn't think he was given the proper respect due his lofty status. As for GM Smith, I am willing to give him the break and say he was trying to get the personnel that Kubiak said he needed. I want to see how this draft plays out on the field now that Phillips is doing the choosing. You can't really fault the job the offense has been doing, what with a QB with over 4000 yds and 28 TDs last year. A RB with 1600+ yds, and the leading receiver in the league in AJ with over1200+ yads.

[Nconroe]

I guess I'd have to see doctor medical reports and opinion of coaches to know if the GM or the worn out runner were correct on the story. I guess it was a mistake in hindsight to bring Ahman here, age, injury, to much money.

Seems a whiny story to be putting in public, but those are the days of nothing else to talk about.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by NBT

I listened to part of that interview. Green came across to me as a whiney pout that didn't think he was given the proper respect due his lofty status.

He DID come across as whiney. I'm very sorry about your personal issues and so on but stay on the field and produce and keep quiet. (That may be what I love about AJ, by the way, is that he keeps quiet and lets what he does on the field speak for him. And how loudly it speaks...)

But a GM simply does not behave that way, accusing a player of faking an injury. It reminds me of the idiot the Astros have as GM currently (and for not much longer). If you are a PR goon who has somehow talked yourself into a management position you do not verbally confront a player. You make very clear the rules and the consequences for disobedience but you do not challenge a player publicly. Unless you want to get your button-down, plaid, Dockers ass kicked.

And, as Keith says, you do not accuse a player of faking an injury (especially if he's a RB with very little tread on the tires, which makes one ask why the hell that idiot signed him, anyway) unless you want the entire FA marketplace to know what a prick you are.

Think about it. The current regime is completely incompetent in every way. They have proven that abundantly. Assuming there is a season they will fail, again, and presumably the idiot owner will have no choice but to clean house. Which means in all likelihood another two or three years before the team is any good, if they in fact get good under whoever the idiot owner hires. Which will mean that AJ's career is coming to a close. What an absolute waste of a once-in-a-lifetime player.

[Joshua]

Marcus Coleman was on 1560 the next morning and basically said most people around the league think the Texans are a joke and made it very clear that he does not think much of Rick Smith. Said that the only reason Smith got a front office opportunity was because he was basically a mole in the locker room in Denver. Not encouraging.

Since Smith has been here, what contracts has he had to negotiate with good players who actually had some leverage? Off the top of my head, Dunta, Demeco, Owen, and AJ. There were significant issues with all of these negotiations. Dunta blew up. Demeco and Owen eventually signed but it was not easy and it looked like both of them might blow up for a while. All of these things are adding up to a not-so-pretty picture.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Joshua

Marcus Coleman was on 1560 the next morning and basically said most people around the league think the Texans are a joke and made it very clear that he does not think much of Rick Smith. Said that the only reason Smith got a front office opportunity was because he was basically a mole in the locker room in Denver. Not encouraging.

Thanks for the heads-up about the 1560 podcast, because I went ahead and listened and it was interesting to say the least. Quite a story about Glenn Earl - sure would like to know who cleaned his clock ?
They ended the interview by stating MC was a "Texans Ambassator", and sure enough he's there in the group picture with 15 to 20 other guys on the Texans website and I'm going to keep track to see if he remains on that list after his scathing remarks about Rick Smith ?

[HPF Bob]

Did he ask Dunta or OD if they were faking?

[chuck]

Coleman mentioned something that I've been wondering about. He rhetorically asked who's in charge of the Texans. Smith invariably indicates publicly that he has the last word on personnel moves but I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't. Coleman asks, Who's in charge, Kubiak, Smith, McNair's son?

I've always imagined that Cal Smith has a considerable influence in the way the Texans are run but have never before seen any mention of any kind that he might play a role.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by chuck

Which means in all likelihood another two or three years before the team is any good, if they in fact get good under whoever the idiot owner hires.

Meet, Wade Phillips... The new Head Coach and GM of YOUR 2012 Houston Texans!!!

Does anyone seriously believe they'll go any other direction in light of how this franchise has been managed to this point and how they pulled off the recent dog-and-pony show with Bum? The planets are aligned perfectly... We'll miss the playoffs but the defense will improve just enough for McNair to think Wade deserves another shot.

That's my crystal ball moment, folks. Please leave your donations in the fish bowl on your way out...

[NBT]

Wait a minute! I will not donate because I do not subscribe to your view. Kubiak has proven the offense can be good. Phillips, in other coaching stints, has proven he can turn a defense around. we lost several games over the last couple of years because of defensive collapses in the final quarter. The two have coached together before at Denver, I believe, and they got along as far as I can see. So, if you don't like Rick Smith, that is your right, but I just fail to see why this team can't make the playoffs this year.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

The two have coached together before at Denver, I believe, and they got along as far as I can see. So, if you don't like Rick Smith, that is your right, but I just fail to see why this team can't make the playoffs this year.

Just to correct your assertion, Phillips and Kubiak have never coached together before. Kubiak was a ball boy back in the Luv Ya Blue days of the Oilers, and Wade was a defensive coach.

In Denver, Gary was a backup QB and Wade was as DC in 1989, 1990, and 1991. They did not have much interaction during this time. Gary retired from playing and went to A&M as a RB coach, and Wade later became the HC of the Broncos in 1993.

Kubiak has coached against Wade for years, especially when Wade was with the Chargers and Gary was the OC of the Broncos.

This is the 1st time they have coached together on a team.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by NBT

Kubiak has proven the offense can be good.

I don't have time to look up the stats, but as I recall, the offense was pretty much a stinking pile of dung last year in the first quarter (first half in quite a few of their games) when defensive ineptitude shouldn't be much of a factor. Of course, Foster was awesome anytime/anywhere, but the rest of the offense had a subpar year, IMO. I'm not disagreeing with your point overall, because the D was obviously awful and the primary reason this team tanked last year. I just don't think offensive performance is a good justfication for keeping Kubiak around. I think there are a lot of other coaches who could keep this team in the Offensive Top 10 with the talent they have on that side of the ball.

Originally Posted by NBT

So, if you don't like Rick Smith, that is your right, but I just fail to see why this team can't make the playoffs this year.

Don't like Kubiak much now either. I hope they do make the playoffs, but I can certainly see where they could miss out. That is, if I use their history as an indicator.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

Don't like Kubiak much now either. I hope they do make the playoffs, but I can certainly see where they could miss out. That is, if I use their history as an indicator.

I'm getting that way myself, not there completely yet, but if this team is not an elite team by midseason, he should be gone at the end of the year.

My choice would be to keep Dennison running the offense, and let Wade run the defense, but then what coach would want to come in with that set up? Maybe a Gruden? or Cowher?

[Nconroe]

Yeah , the first quarter offense was a real problem last year. Hope the players and coaches can figure that out for this upcoming year. I'm sure they are studying that a lot this off-season. They did seem to fix the run game and red zone offense last year.

I thought other than secondary last year, and maybe a few players shouldn't of tried as Ahman Green, the player evaluation had been pretty good overall past five years, compared to much of the league.

[dadmg]

Originally Posted by popanot

Of course, Foster was awesome anytime/anywhere, but the rest of the offense had a subpar year, IMO.

Even with the lingering injuries to Angry Dre and the slow recovery of Owen Daniels, the passing offense had very little, if any drop-off. Here's the Texans offense the last four years in several ranking systems.

Football Outsiders DVOA
2010 26.1% (2nd) Passing: 34.4% (4th) Rushing: 22.3% (3rd)
2009 13.2% (11th) Passing: 38.2% (8th) Rushing: -11.2% (31st)
2008 11.0% (14th) Passing: 28.2% (11th) Rushing: 4.7% (16th)
2007 2.0% (21st) Passing: 15.0% (14th) Rushing: -1.2% (16th)

Points
2010 390 (9th)
2009 388 (10th)
2008 366 (17th)
2007 379 (12th)

YPA
2010 7.6 (5th)
2009 8.1 (6th)
2008 8.1 (2nd)
2007 7.4 (7th)

YPC
2010 4.8 (3rd)
2009 3.5 (31st)
2008 4.3 (13th)
2007 3.8 (24th)

Most teams would kill for their offense to have an "off-year" like we had last year. The problem is that when teams got to face our pass defense they looked just as good

[popanot]

Originally Posted by dadmg

Even with the lingering injuries to Angry Dre and the slow recovery of Owen Daniels, the passing offense had very little, if any drop-off. Here's the Texans offense the last four years in several ranking systems.

Football Outsiders DVOA
2010 26.1% (2nd) Passing: 34.4% (4th) Rushing: 22.3% (3rd)
Most teams would kill for their offense to have an "off-year" like we had last year. The problem is that when teams got to face our pass defense they looked just as good

My main contention is the offense sucked in the opening QTRs of games and most of those overall stats came when they were playing catch up. Statistically they were at the top, but I'm not so sure that tells the whole story as to the effectiveness of the offense - especially in the early stages of the game. IMO, throughout the year, they were subpar early in the games when it was close (obviously) and the crappy defensive play wasn't so much a factor. I looked around briefly and I can't seem to find a breakdown, but I wish I could find the NFL 2010 qtr-by-qtr scoring stats. I'd be interested to see where the Texans ranked in the 1rst and 2nd quarters.