Texans' Current Draft Position: 9-13

[barrett]

Is there a big difference in the historical production of the #8 and #12 picks? Or more importantly, what we can do with that pick? I know last year if we had won more we may have been forced into McCourty over KJ. That would have been terrible.

With that said, I have wanted to lose since about week 12 so that Kubiak would be out. Or I should say I've wanted to lose on principal so he would be fired. Because no matter how much I want that on monday through saturday, I find 100% of myself wanting the Texans to win on Sunday (and 100% of myself feeling gut-punched when they find a new way to lose).

Bottom line is I really don't think it matters either way if we win or lose this game.

[HPF Bob]

I'm not a fan of rooting to lose but I don't think winning helps the Texans at all. Winning gives McNair the fig leaf to perhaps stick with Kubiak another year as well as hurting our draft position.

Keep in mind, the draft is what you do with it, not just where you draft. We COULD have had Patrick Willis, not Amobi Okoye. We COULD have had Derrick Johnson, not Travis Johnson. How many more TEs and WRs do you want us to draft instead of finding some better DBs?

And as for kicking the Jags out of the playoffs, they're already out. There may still be a mathematical chance but the Colts would have to choke and if the Jaguars can't even beat the McNabb-less Redskins at home in a must-win situation, I just don't see them making the playoffs.

[chuck]

If you literally root for your team to lose on game day then you are not a fan. If, after a loss in the sort of situation in which we find ourselves, you cannot recognize the silver lining then you are not sensible.

[coloradodude]

Well, after we got lambasted, utterly dominated, by the cowboys I wanted us to lose every single game after that. The reason? A new coach.

Am I not a fan? Unfortunately, losing seasons or winning Super Bowls are the only way you get a coaching change. I want the Texans to go to the playoffs every single year but this coaching staff is not gonna get that done. Thinking bigger picture means we have to have a coaching change...and a losing season. Ugh, the worst the better because McNair seems okay with mediocrity.

BTW, this weeks game will have the flavor of a preseason game to me. 8th pick or 12th pick means nothing because boom or bust looms in the first round.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by coloradodude

Well, after we got lambasted, utterly dominated, by the cowboys I wanted us to lose every single game after that. The reason? A new coach.

Am I not a fan? Unfortunately, losing seasons or winning Super Bowls are the only way you get a coaching change. I want the Texans to go to the playoffs every single year but this coaching staff is not gonna get that done. Thinking bigger picture means we have to have a coaching change...and a losing season. Ugh, the worst the better because McNair seems okay with mediocrity.

BTW, this weeks game will have the flavor of a preseason game to me. 8th pick or 12th pick means nothing because boom or bust looms in the first round.

In this draft the premium picks appear to be the top 5, after that there is a group of guys that can be #7 or #21 depending on each team/ internet gurus list. So if your not top 5 IMO being #8 or #12 doesn't change much. This is not a great draft for off the chart type talent, but there seems to be a large number number of good prospects.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by painekiller

In this draft the premium picks appear to be the top 5, after that there is a group of guys that can be #7 or #21 depending on each team/ internet gurus list. So if your not top 5 IMO being #8 or #12 doesn't change much. This is not a great draft for off the chart type talent, but there seems to be a large number number of good prospects.

True, but losing might net you Patrick Peterson if we can sneak into the top 5......

I would be a non-fan for a day if that happens.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by WMH

True, but losing might net you Patrick Peterson if we can sneak into the top 5......

I would be a non-fan for a day if that happens.

Me too, I see him as the best guy in this draft who is not a QB at Stanford.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

I know last year if we had won more we may have been forced into McCourty over KJ. That would have been terrible.

Given the Texans history in choosing corners, they probably would have taken somebody like Kyle Wilson and still left McCourty on the Board.