Texans Bull Blog Commentary [Split Thread]

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Could have fooled me since nearly every one of your posts pimps your blog.

I'm speaking to the integrity of our writing and our blog. Of course, we want blog hits. I don't really see a problem with leaving a link to our blog on this message board (especially since we have a permanent link to IntheBullseye on our site). I'm saying that we wouldn't sensationalize a story or fabricate one simply because we think it will drive hits to our site.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I'm speaking to the integrity of our writing and our blog. Of course, we want blog hits. I don't really see a problem with leaving a link to our blog on this message board (especially since we have a permanent link to IntheBullseye on our site). I'm saying that we wouldn't sensationalize a story or fabricate one simply because we think it will drive hits to our site.

This isn't my site and Keith is well within his rights to disagree, overrule my view or even delete this post if he likes, but I'm finding myself put off by your posts that are basically, "Some piece of Texans related information in a sentence or two" and a link to your blog.

I like your blog, your site, I really do. But I feel (*I* feel, my opinion solely) that if you're going to participate here you should participate here and not try to drive the conversation away from this site and to your site. This may not be your intention but it is certainly the impression I have received.

Imagine my going to your site and commenting on a blog by saying "I have all sorts of interesting and provocative things to say about this and I do so at hpf.com." It's a bit unseemly, isn't it?

Maybe you could give us an honest to god post here with whatever your input is - and please know I appreciate and enjoy your input - and at the end of the post mention that there's additional discussion at your place.

Am I explaining myself? I'm not trying to be a prick or pick a fight, just giving you my two cents.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by chuck

This isn't my site and Keith is well within his rights to disagree, overrule my view or even delete this post if he likes, but I'm finding myself put off by your posts that are basically, "Some piece of Texans related information in a sentence or two" and a link to your blog.

I like your blog, your site, I really do. But I feel (*I* feel, my opinion solely) that if you're going to participate here you should participate here and not try to drive the conversation away from this site and to your site. This may not be your intention but it is certainly the impression I have received.

Imagine my going to your site and commenting on a blog by saying "I have all sorts of interesting and provocative things to say about this and I do so at hpf.com." It's a bit unseemly, isn't it?

Maybe you could give us an honest to god post here with whatever your input is - and please know I appreciate and enjoy your input - and at the end of the post mention that there's additional discussion at your place.

Am I explaining myself? I'm not trying to be a prick or pick a fight, just giving you my two cents.

I get what you are saying. However, it is worth noting again that I have a link to inthebullseye on our site. It is one of 9, I think, links that are permanently on our main page. So, I don't feel that I am take advantage of inthebullseye.com. Beyond that, I feel our content supplements this site well. I have been a part of this site back when it was houstonprofootball.com. I haven't been a consistent poster, but I have been here and always appreciated the content and have always recommended it to others- particularly the pre-draft coverage and the Salary cap page, which I think are both premier.

I'm of the opinion that more quality coverage of the Texans is good for everyone. Particularly with the Texans, we are a long ways away from saturated coverage. Also, we are not a message board and so we are not threatening to impinge on what you do here. Instead, we are supplementing it and hopefully providing commentors on this site with more to discuss.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by chuck

This isn't my site and Keith is well within his rights to disagree, overrule my view or even delete this post if he likes, but I'm finding myself put off by your posts that are basically, "Some piece of Texans related information in a sentence or two" and a link to your blog.

I like your blog, your site, I really do. But I feel (*I* feel, my opinion solely) that if you're going to participate here you should participate here and not try to drive the conversation away from this site and to your site. This may not be your intention but it is certainly the impression I have received.

Imagine my going to your site and commenting on a blog by saying "I have all sorts of interesting and provocative things to say about this and I do so at hpf.com." It's a bit unseemly, isn't it?

Maybe you could give us an honest to god post here with whatever your input is - and please know I appreciate and enjoy your input - and at the end of the post mention that there's additional discussion at your place.

Am I explaining myself? I'm not trying to be a prick or pick a fight, just giving you my two cents.

I have to agree with Chuck on most of this. Dale has started to be similar to TexansChick in starting threads that are only meant to drive us to his blog.

He is not sharing here in the way he used to share before he started the blog.

While I have enjoyed his blog I am getting tired of the IMO blatant attempts to drive traffic. BTW I get tired of this from Steff also.

I have enjoyed your insights here, and wish you to reengage in the discussions here. Not hold back for a blog post. That is just my opinion.

As for the links I don't have a problem with them when they add to the discussions, but starting threads to drive us to a blog...

I want to reinforce, dalemurphy has been one of the valued voices on this board and I do not want to see him leave, just tone down the sales pitches.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I have to agree with Chuck on most of this. Dale has started to be similar to TexansChick in starting threads that are only meant to drive us to his blog.

He is not sharing here in the way he used to share before he started the blog.

While I have enjoyed his blog I am getting tired of the IMO blatant attempts to drive traffic. BTW I get tired of this from Steff also.

I have enjoyed your insights here, and wish you to reengage in the discussions here. Not hold back for a blog post. That is just my opinion.

As for the links I don't have a problem with them when they add to the discussions, but starting threads to drive us to a blog...

I want to reinforce, dalemurphy has been one of the valued voices on this board and I do not want to see him leave, just tone down the sales pitches.

This is the best way to do it in my opinion.

If there is a conversation on the OL performance going on in our forum, reply to the thread and throw in a link into that existing thread that links potential visitors directly to your OL performance review. That feels natural.

The new threads created specifically to link are the only thing that bother me at all.

But on the whole I like your new blog and think it goes well with ITB.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by barrett

This is the best way to do it in my opinion.

If there is a conversation on the OL performance going on in our forum, reply to the thread and throw in a link into that existing thread that links potential visitors directly to your OL performance review. That feels natural.

The new threads created specifically to link are the only thing that bother me at all.

But on the whole I like your new blog and think it goes well with ITB.

I honestly don't get the offense. I feel like I have added to the discussion and simply don't understand how starting a new thread that board members would have interest in is inappropriate. Then again, I'm certainly not an expert on etiquette. Since I'm clearly offending board regulars, I will refrain from starting new threads and will link fewer of our articles onto this message board.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I honestly don't get the offense. I feel like I have added to the discussion and simply don't understand how starting a new thread that board members would have interest in is inappropriate. Then again, I'm certainly not an expert on etiquette. Since I'm clearly offending board regulars, I will refrain from starting new threads and will link fewer of our articles onto this message board.

dale it is a fine line, and I guess you have to cross it sometimes in order for us to find that line. Have you been a pain, not at all.

IMO ITB.com has been a smaller more intimate group. We tend to be more knowledgeable then the average fan on the official site. TT.com has some great posters and I learn a ton there, but they have to many guys who are being deliberate trolls. So far this site has avoided that type of poster.

I'm not sure I know the best way for you to handle this. I don't want to see you leave this site, I mainly want to see you reengage here as a valued participant, not just a promoter.

I tried to be a little more clear about this, not sure that I was.

[Fonz the Boss]

Geez guys!!! I have been logging on almost everyday since training camp started and i see no more than 4 to 5 new posts per day. At least Dale was still one of the few active members posting good info here. If it wasn't for his links I probably would have never found out about the Texans Bull Blog. Dale, i hope you dont stop posting here man.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I honestly don't get the offense. I feel like I have added to the discussion and simply don't understand how starting a new thread that board members would have interest in is inappropriate. Then again, I'm certainly not an expert on etiquette. Since I'm clearly offending board regulars, I will refrain from starting new threads and will link fewer of our articles onto this message board.

You've gotta a new blog and you want to get the message out and that is fine. But, I think at some point you've got to back off a little. I hit a lot of Texans message boards/blogs and you are everywhere.

If your blog is good and has interesting content, then there won't be any need for promotion. Readers will do all the linking, promoting and creating discussion for you....