IntheBullseye.com  

Go Back   IntheBullseye.com > Hot Reads ...In the Bullseye > The Texans
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-14-2010, 08:47 PM
barrett barrett is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,902
Default Thoughts after Cards Game

I know we still have the 2nd half, but that's almost a completely different game.

1st Half thoughts

The first string offense looked very good. I think it can't be over estimated how valuable continuity is in the NFL. I think it is a huge part of the Colts success. Especially on offense.

Foster looked good but was running on 1st and 2nd downs and in long yardage situations. He is obviously great for the stretch and the counter and the "slow to the hole" running game. He also looks very good in the 2nd level. I am disappointed we never got to see him tonight in anything like short yardage.

Dreesen is a big drop from OD. He is a solid #2 TE who can block and catch well enough to not tip off what the play is, but our offense would suffer with him in a big role. Casey looked very good against the 2s. I'd love to see Casey with the 1s and Schaub if OD is not back next week.

The OL did exactly what can be expected of it. Small creases in the running game that will work against 6 and 7 man fronts. Solid pass blocking and great blitz pick up on the TD. Also watch the running plays and you will see why Walter will start of JJ no matter how dangerous JJ is. Walter comes in motion and cracks better than anybody in the NFL and makes the counter a great play for the Texans. And the counter is probably the best play to Play action off of.

The Defense hit hard and hit often. I would be fine with that as a calling card even if we learn later that we still can't cover anyone. Pollard and Cushing are so physical.

Okoye played tough. He is clearly suited to playing forward on the snap. He went right by Faneca to knock down Leinhart's pass on one play. I honestly was doubting he would ever amount to much, but maybe it was more a case of there is only one scheme he really has value in.

With the 2nd string guys I will just say that Orlovsky is a terrible fit for our offense. He is so clumsy that he struggles to make the handoff on the outside zone (our base running play). And he also can't boot or throw on the run. So basically he lacks the ability to do the basic elements of our system. He's not terrible, just terrible for us. Someone in the pro scouting department blew it big time on this guy.

And Okam is useless out there. His first play in the game ended with him pushed a good 8 yards off the LOS. And that wasn't the exception for his time out there. I don't understand how a guy his size could be bad at holding his ground in the middle of the line, but he is.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-14-2010, 10:12 PM
NBT NBT is offline
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: S.E. Texas Coast
Posts: 1,836
Default

First 3 quarters 16-zip, then, as in the past the wheels come off in the 4th, and we lose the dam game 19-16. Purely sucks!!
__________________
NBT - Elder statesman. Wisdom comes with age - Now if i could remember what it was!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-14-2010, 11:18 PM
Keith Keith is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,761
Default

Post-game writeup.
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2010/20100814.html

Just happy to have something new on the front page of the site, really.
__________________
Support ...IntheBullseye.com and follow us on Twitter
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-14-2010, 11:29 PM
dalemurphy dalemurphy is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 259
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith View Post
Post-game writeup.
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2010/20100814.html

Just happy to have something new on the front page of the site, really.
Keith, It's great to have football games to talk about. I've been so excited about the depth at RB, but it took a serious hit tonight with Slaton's shabby performance and the Tate injury. Really takes the wind out of a good performance. Here are our early thoughts of the game:

Texans Bull Blog
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-15-2010, 03:56 AM
Bigtinylittle Bigtinylittle is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 262
Default

1. When Orlovsky had suffucient time, Orlovsky looked very steady to me. I'm a lot less worried about him as a backup. If he plays in the regular season at the level he played against the Cardinals, I'll be satisfied. I'd still rather have Sage, though.

2. I thought Jacoby Jones looked excellent. I think he'll see the field more this year than last year. It's starting to look like he wasn't a wasted draft pick after all.

3. I thought the pass blocking by the first team was excellent. The run blocking, not so much.

4. No way we put Dickerson on the practice squad.

5. Holiday looked shockingly bad. His kick returning made me pine for Davis.

6. I'm hoping Mario's bull rush sack means he has improved the use of his hands.That sack may be the most impressive I've ever seen him make.

7.Casey looked very comfortable. I think he's ready for more playing time.

8. Slaton is looking more and more like the specialty back he was drafted to be. He should be good in that role.

9. I seem to be the only person who notices that we would have a more potent passing offense if we replaced Leach with someone who can run better after catching the ball. The occasional dump pass to him ought to be a big weapon in our offense, and it rarely is. I guess he's considered important enough as a blocker, though, that his starting job is safe.

10.Dreesen is definately not a starting NFL tight end. He's not particularly fast or strong.

11. Bennett is a goner.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-15-2010, 07:04 AM
TheMatrix31 TheMatrix31 is offline
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,042
Default

I really hope this is the year Jacoby Jones stops doing that one RANDOM game-killer thing that makes you say "Dude, what the ****************, Jacoby?"
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-15-2010, 07:08 AM
Big Texas Big Texas is offline
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,469
Default

1. Orlavsky: looks like the one guy at the club that loves to dance but just doesn't know how and has no rhythm.

2. Mario, Shaub, AJ, Cushing: Ready to play some football!!!

3. Sharpton: This guy definitely needs to get some playing time. Maybe he can be a huge contributer while Cushing is out...

4. Slaton: definitely cannot be counted on as an everydown back...I think the long drive wore him down and his mechanics suffered after each play...Still think he can be a major weapon in the screen game. I am still willing to give him another shot because he missed 5 games last year...

5. Jacoby: This guy is primed to make a huge impact this year.

6. Holliday: Thinking too much...I give him one more preseason game...

7. Molden: Just happy to see him on the field...He actually held his own pretty well...

8. EMitch: Showed some penetration but almost useless with the bull rush or when he's doubled...

9. Studdard: One of the reasons why Slaton had such a poor performance...Got blew up one too many times.

10. White: See Studdard...I almost thought he was Caldwell (63 vs. 62) out there...not in play though.

11. Oline: As a unit they looked like night and day after the 1's left the game...

12. Red Zone: playcalling was less than par and execution was even worse on some occassions. Before Slaton fumbled that ball, if DanO would have thrown that quick screen to Jacoby a little quicker that would have been a TD.

Overall: very impressed with the 1's both offense and defense...

Interesting note: how did it take the coaching staff so long to notice that Arian Foster could be a great back for our team. It wasn't like he had so much talent in front of him.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-15-2010, 10:51 AM
Bigtinylittle Bigtinylittle is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 262
Default

On that last note, I think Foster has improved his running from where it was a year ago. It seems to me he runs harder to the hole now. A year ago I think I saw more hesitation in his game.

Also I know Kubiak hates to put in backs until he trusts their pass blocking. That may have been part of why he didn't play more last year.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-15-2010, 11:49 AM
painekiller painekiller is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near the Galleria
Posts: 2,852
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle View Post
Also I know Kubiak hates to put in backs until he trusts their pass blocking. That may have been part of why he didn't play more last year.
We have a winner....

That and Foster was POed that he was not drafted. He was cut and when he got back he still did not get the amount of work he needed to do to get in the game. Until you can block you do not run.
__________________
There is no failure, only feedback.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-15-2010, 02:25 PM
NBT NBT is offline
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: S.E. Texas Coast
Posts: 1,836
Default

Give that man a Kewpie doll!!
__________________
NBT - Elder statesman. Wisdom comes with age - Now if i could remember what it was!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-15-2010, 03:32 PM
Arky Arky is offline
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 9,291
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by painekiller View Post
We have a winner....

That and Foster was POed that he was not drafted. He was cut and when he got back he still did not get the amount of work he needed to do to get in the game. Until you can block you do not run.
Yep, there was some attitude issues and some friction with the coaching staff but by all reports, Foster is now onboard and conducting himself to everyone's satisfaction...
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-15-2010, 06:12 PM
HPF Bob HPF Bob is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,149
Default

So Tate's injured and may be gone for the year. Slaton has obviously not cured his fumbling problem. Foster looked good though and may be our regular season starter. Barring injury, I think the backfield question has been settled.

Print up the t-shirts. We are ARIAN NATION!!!

(sorry folks.)

Last edited by HPF Bob; 08-15-2010 at 06:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-15-2010, 06:28 PM
dalemurphy dalemurphy is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 259
Default

We have a three postgame articles on Texans Bull Blog right now:

1. postgame impressions, the good and the bad

2. detailed review of the interior offensive line

3. Coach-Speak.. revealing what Kubiak meant but didn't say at his press conference this afternoon.


Texans Bull Blog

Last edited by dalemurphy; 08-15-2010 at 06:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-15-2010, 06:36 PM
painekiller painekiller is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near the Galleria
Posts: 2,852
Default

My biggest thought is for the fans that are crying about losing a game in which the starters and the 2nd team guys looked solid, then those fans do not deserve to be on this board. Go post on the chron.com or the official board at HoustonTexans.com.

There was enough positives to be thankful for that a few bad plays by Fred Bennett.Bennett is gone. Move on.

Now what RBs are out there on street right now? Anthony Aldridge? (Notgonnahappen) I do not see them not replacing the roster spot due to the reps in camp needing bodies. A vet makes the most sense at this time.

Chris Taylor is in NE. Any names you guys can think of?
__________________
There is no failure, only feedback.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-15-2010, 07:01 PM
dalemurphy dalemurphy is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 259
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by painekiller View Post
My biggest thought is for the fans that are crying about losing a game in which the starters and the 2nd team guys looked solid, then those fans do not deserve to be on this board. Go post on the chron.com or the official board at HoustonTexans.com.

There was enough positives to be thankful for that a few bad plays by Fred Bennett.Bennett is gone. Move on.


Now what RBs are out there on street right now? Anthony Aldridge? (Notgonnahappen) I do not see them not replacing the roster spot due to the reps in camp needing bodies. A vet makes the most sense at this time.

Chris Taylor is in NE. Any names you guys can think of?


Dead on, PK!

regarding RBs: Ladell Betts, Westbrook...
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-15-2010, 09:04 PM
Nconroe Nconroe is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lake Conroe
Posts: 2,897
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dalemurphy View Post
We have a three postgame articles on Texans Bull Blog right now:

1. postgame impressions, the good and the bad

2. detailed review of the interior offensive line

3. Coach-Speak.. revealing what Kubiak meant but didn't say at his press conference this afternoon.


Texans Bull Blog
Thanks for all the analysis, I particularly appreciated the OL analysis. Will you repeat in future weeks, or do similar on DL one of these weeks? Lotta work for sure.

I thought game went very good for first practice game, many positives, I am optomistic some of the weaknesses will get better before first real game a month from now.

You know Arizona has been to playoffs two years in a row, and overall, we did dominated them , of course they have lost a few key players this offseason.

I thought perhaps the marginal roughing passer call on Jamison seemed like a turning point for our defense, along with JDB group couldn't make a first down till too late.

On to N.O., another good test to evaluate on. And I think coaches doing well with all these young guys. plenty for them to evaluate and try to fix now.

Last edited by Nconroe; 08-15-2010 at 09:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-16-2010, 01:59 AM
dalemurphy dalemurphy is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 259
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nconroe View Post
Thanks for all the analysis, I particularly appreciated the OL analysis. Will you repeat in future weeks, or do similar on DL one of these weeks? Lotta work for sure.

I thought game went very good for first practice game, many positives, I am optomistic some of the weaknesses will get better before first real game a month from now.

You know Arizona has been to playoffs two years in a row, and overall, we did dominated them , of course they have lost a few key players this offseason.

I thought perhaps the marginal roughing passer call on Jamison seemed like a turning point for our defense, along with JDB group couldn't make a first down till too late.

On to N.O., another good test to evaluate on. And I think coaches doing well with all these young guys. plenty for them to evaluate and try to fix now.
We will pay special attention to the OL and DL throughout the season. Between ESPN and NFL network, they have the QB, RB, and WR highlights pretty well covered. We are hoping to supplement all that coverage with more in depth analysis and attention to the details. God bless my DVR!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-16-2010, 09:29 AM
Joshua Joshua is offline
Regular Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 549
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by painekiller View Post
My biggest thought is for the fans that are crying about losing a game in which the starters and the 2nd team guys looked solid, then those fans do not deserve to be on this board. Go post on the chron.com or the official board at HoustonTexans.com.

There was enough positives to be thankful for that a few bad plays by Fred Bennett.Bennett is gone. Move on.
Funny you posted this because I was browsing the texanstalk.com board yesterday and was just about ready to claw my eyes out because of all the complaints about not trying to send the game to overtime and just general complaints about the playcalling and execution in the 4th quarter by guys who most likely will never sniff the field for the Texans when the season starts.

Virtually all the players who will see significant time once the season starts played well. Aside from the Tate injury (and I guess the Slaton fumble), I'm very pleased with the first outing.

Finally, while it's not really happening here, I've heard lots of complaints about not letting Rackers kick in a "pressure, end-of-game" situation.
Since both kickers are competing for 1 spot, isn't every kick for Rackers and Brown a pressure kick where 1 miss may be the difference, whether it is in the 1st quarter or 4th? Plus, by alternating between the two, each can only expect 1 or 2 opportunities per game. I can't imagine either guy thinks he has any margin for error, no matter when in the game he is kicking.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-16-2010, 10:33 AM
painekiller painekiller is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near the Galleria
Posts: 2,852
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua View Post
Funny you posted this because I was browsing the texanstalk.com board yesterday and was just about ready to claw my eyes out because of all the complaints about not trying to send the game to overtime and just general complaints about the playcalling and execution in the 4th quarter by guys who most likely will never sniff the field for the Texans when the season starts.
Reading TT.com is what prompted that outburst. It made a good board unbearable.
__________________
There is no failure, only feedback.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-16-2010, 11:04 AM
Nconroe Nconroe is offline
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lake Conroe
Posts: 2,897
Default

My thoughts, On Rackers vs Brown, they are very similar.

Looking at stats, looks like Rackers has been much better past two years on FG , and those years had pressure of playoffs. Rackers only missed one FG last year, 16 of 17, but that one got him released apparently. Year before he was 25 of 28. But Brown had some good years as well on FG made.

Brown missed 11 last year and was 29 of 33 the year before. Perhaps a little better and we would have been in the playoffs last year with another win somewhere.

On kickoffs, Brown has averaged two extra yards per kick, although some years Rackers had more yards.

Brown has been real good in Houston neighborhood, and last original Texan.

Rackers had best percentage of FG made last year of all FG kickers who kicked more than 2 FG.

Glad I don't have to make the choice, but likely both will be employed when season starts, my guess is it is Rackers to loose.

On end of game Saturday, they were gonna try a pass route first with 10 seconds left. I'm ok with that.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.