Roster Predictions

[painekiller]

I know this early, but its the off season and I wanted to see if anyone here had something to add to this. I posted this on another board, but wanted you guys to comment on it.

My roster predictions:

2 QB Schaub, Orlovsky
3 RB Foster Slaton Tate
1 FB Leach
7 WR Johnson, Walters, Jones, Anderson, Davis, Holiday, Dickerson
3 TE Daniel, Casey, Graham, PUP Hill
3 OT Winston, Brown, Butler
6 OG/OC Meyers, Caldwell, W Smith, Briesel, S Smith, Studdard
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1 K Brown
1 P Turk
1 LS Weeks
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4 DE Mario, Barwin, Smith, Jamison,
5 DT Okoye, Cody, Mitchell, Sheppard, Okam ? (My only bubble guy, this could be Robinson)
6 LB Ryans, Diles, Adibi, Bentley, Clark, Sharpton, Roster exemption Cushing
6 CB Jackson, Quin, McCain, Molden, Reeves, McManus
4 S Pollard, Wilson, Nolan, Barber
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Key cuts Bennett, White, Dreessen, Bulman, DelJuan Robinson and Glenn Martinez

About the TE: Joel was signed to a reported 3 year deal for 3.6 million, that is not a reason to keep him.

We have 4 guys currently that are the same player for the most part, Daniels, Casey, Graham and Dreessen. One of those guys does not have room on the roster, which one do you think?

If ST is that high on the list, Casey is the "QB" of the punting team, being the up man, and he can also snap the ball, plus he is the emergency FB.

Graham was not drafted in the 4th only to be cut. IMO unless they trade Owen, Dreessen is the odd man out IMO.

Hill will start the year on the PUP, IMO, and we are going to have to make room for him at some point, or maybe he goes to the PS.

Maybe we shop Owen during the preseason when he has shown to be healthy, could we get a 3rd rounder fro him?

[NBT]

OD is one of the best TE's in the league. Dreesen has come into his own. Graham is still only an unproven rookie. He either goes to the PS or he gets cut.

[barrett]

Looks like a well thought out guess. Obviously some things will develop in unexpected ways between now and the final cut down, but this makes sense for what we have.

WR may actually be more of a log jam then TE when you look at it. I doubt Jacoby, Andre Davis, Holliday, and Dickerson are all on the roster.

I would say that if Holliday can't win the primary return spot he won't stick. If he can, then I would bet either JJ or AD are gone depending on who they like more as a WR. And I don't think Dickerson makes the team unless he looks great on ST coverage. Because if his size/speed can't translate to ST then it never will to anything.

[Bigtinylittle]

Davis will be gone. You can bet it as if it has already been played.

[Arky]

Yep, I'd say that is pretty darn close - nice job.

A pre-season injury here or there could shuffle things up a bit... Players like Dickerson, Holliday, Graham, S Smith, possibly Sheppard might go on the PS or acquire a mysterious ailment that puts them on the PUP list.

I think they like Dreesen.... he might even be the #1 to start the season.....

Jeremiah Johnson? Might be PS again....

When Cushing comes back, I think one of Clark, Bentley, Adibi has to go...

[barrett]

Does anyone have the final cutdown list from last august? Specifically how many of each position we kept to get to 53.

[HPF Bob]

I think that unless they blow the doors off in camp, Holliday and Dickerson will be practiced-squaded. If they *do* make the roster, look for Jacoby Jones to become trade bait, possibly for a DB or an OLB. I could also see a TE as trade bait too.

[Joe Joe]

I like the roster. I think Davis is gone and Dickerson will be PS. This will allow two other people to be on roster. My guess is Hill will be on roster if healthy.

[NBT]

I think they like JJ, who is finally starting to come into his own. Davis would be the goner, with Dickerson to the PS.

On defense I think LB Adibi needs to show he belongs.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by NBT

On defense I think LB Adibi needs to show he belongs.

He definitely belongs weeks 1-4.......

Stupid doctors

[painekiller]

My breakdown by position is close to how the Texans broke camp last year. It's not exactly the same but it's close. I do not see guys being cut until better options exist to replace them on the roster.

Davis is a great gunner on punt coverage team, until we have a person to replace him at gunner I have him making the roster. Dickerson, a huge unknown right now, is a guy I do not see clearing waivers, so I think he is kept. Glenn Martinez is the odd man out IMO.

As for TE, I do not see us cutting a 4th round pick in order to try to sneak him to the practice squad. That said, Dreessen is the guy with the least upside. He was OK in Daniels absence but he is what he is. He has a hard time getting separation and he is coming off injury. Casey has impressed in OTAs. (Casey is coming off a knee scope after OTAs). I think barring anymore injuries Dreessen is gone.

As for Holliday, that man is on the team unless he blows it big time. Marciano loves that kid, and he is a bullet.

[Nconroe]

I think last year Texans broke camp with 5 WR and 4 TE, and then injuries occurred to TE's and numbers changed.

I guess your starting roster for 2010 is as good as any speculation for now.

If some position has injuries or troubles during camp, maybe there will be a trade with one of these extra good assets we have at a few positions(WR and TE for now).

I speculate if someone was on team last few years, the consistency will be valued over a maybe future , all else being equal.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

I speculate if someone was on team last few years, the consistency will be valued over a maybe future , all else being equal.

One of the big problems the team had when Capers was here was they did not keep draft picks over journey men. Sometimes you have to keep a player due to his upside over the guy who has maxed out at a back up.

[Nconroe]

All I care to say on that is Capers isn't here any more, I'm glad about that for Texans sake. I think new regime is doing much better evaluating players.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

One of the big problems the team had when Capers was here was they did not keep draft picks over journey men. Sometimes you have to keep a player due to his upside over the guy who has maxed out at a back up.

C&C didn't draft all that well to begin with.

[Bigtinylittle]

My feelings about Davis are based on his salary cap numbers, but if this year is uncapped, maybe that's not relevant.

[NBT]

If Davis or Dreesen doesn't make the final cut I hope we can get something for them without just cutting them.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by NBT

If Davis or Dreesen doesn't make the final cut I hope we can get something for them without just cutting them.

Of course we'll just cut them. That's the Texan way.

[painekiller]

I wanted to add the number by position that the Texans carried into the season, last year 53 man roster the number is in red on the left hand side
My roster predictions:

3 2 QB Schaub, Orlovsky
4 3 RB Foster Slaton Tate
1 1 FB Leach
6 7 WR Johnson, Walters, Jones, Anderson, Davis, Holiday, Dickerson
4 3 TE Daniel, Casey, Graham, PUP Hill
3 3 OT Winston, Brown, Butler
6 6 OG/OC Meyers, Caldwell, W Smith, Briesel, S Smith, Studdard
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1 1 K Brown
1 1 P Turk
0 1 LS Weeks
2 3

9 9 DE Mario, Barwin, Smith, Jamison, DT Okoye, Cody, Mitchell, Sheppard, Okam ? (My only bubble guy, this could be Robinson)
6 6 LB Ryans, Diles, Adibi, Bentley, Clark, Sharpton, Roster exemption Cushing
9 10 DBs CB Jackson, Quin, McCain, Molden, Reeves, McManus, S Pollard, Wilson, Nolan, Barber
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IMO we keep the LS that takes away a TE, if all the TE on my list are healthy, (Hill excluded). This season I think we pass on the 3 string QB and that gives us an extra DB. If all 3 RB are healthy on cut down day then I see us keeping only 3, which allows us an extra WR.

[NBT]

OK, I guess that seems reasonable, however injuries, possible FA acquisitions, cuts, and other unforseen events (a possible lock-out?), I shudder to think of, could get in the way.