Trade for Haynesworth?

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I hate to say it, but I do not see the current team going to the super bowl in 2011 (the 2010 season). 2012 maybe. Our OL is not a super bowl level OL, IMO.

Every thing I am seeing has the Texans going past an lineman to draft a playmaker.

McClain just stated "No way the Texans draft an offensive lineman in the first round. I don't see them selecting one in the first four rounds. Maybe an OT or C/G." I get his text updates, sign up on the chron.com.

Would Haynesworth help this team yes, when he is in shape and playing. He is also a prima donna, and this team does not seem to be attracted to that type person.

Don't disagree with anything you're saying here. I'm torn too on whether this team is good enough to compete for a championship over the next three years. However, I think, in today's NFL, that is about as far out as you can realistically plan to build your team. With injuries, free agency, etc., trying to build a team any further out than that is really difficult. For instance, when Kubiak came in, I would guess that the only 2 players on the team he inherited that virtually everyone agreed we should keep and build around were AJ and Dunta. Four years later and one of those building blocks is gone. We've got some good building blocks right now in Schaub, AJ, Mario, Demeco, Cushing, etc. However, I don't think it is reasonable to expect us to keep those guys together, healthy, and in their prime for more than the next 3 years. Again, if you think this core group is good enough to get you to the promised land, we need to do what we can to get there in the next 3 years. If this core group is not good enough, well then it's starting over time again. Just my opinion.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I hate to say it, but I do not see the current team going to the super bowl in 2011 (the 2010 season). 2012 maybe. Our OL is not a super bowl level OL, IMO.

Every thing I am seeing has the Texans going past an lineman to draft a playmaker.

McClain just stated "No way the Texans draft an offensive lineman in the first round. I don't see them selecting one in the first four rounds. Maybe an OT or C/G." I get his text updates, sign up on the chron.com.

Maybe a digression from the Hayesworth topic, but I hear you loud and clear on this subject PK. First off I have no problem using our first pick on a CB, but I don't want to apply it to a running back (aka "playmaker"), and would be thrilled if instead they'd draft the C/G Pouncy instead, or take an OT tackle
better than what we have and then bump Brown or Winston inside.
We need another back or 2, but we can one or more in the second or third or later rounds. Or sign an undrafted rookie like we did last year.

[NBT]

No, the defense went from one of the worst to one of respect last year. I still think the first pick needs to be either a FS (Earl Thomas), or one of the better CB's, which could be one of several. RB with the second pick and DT with the 3rd. From the fourth on down it could be Olinemen.

[Warren]

Haynesworth is a cancer. Last Christmas the Redskins moved their practice time up so the team could get home early to be with their families. Haynesworth didn't like that so he protested by showing up over an hour late and urging his teammates to do the same. If the Texans show signs of crumbling down the stretch again, Haynesworth's brand of leadership isn't going to help them pull it together.

Maybe that's worth putting up with when he plays like has when the carrot of big $$$ is hanging in front of him, but based on his history (including 2009) there's no reason to believe the dominant Haynesworth would show up in Houston.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by Warren

Haynesworth is a cancer. Last Christmas the Redskins moved their practice time up so the team could get home early to be with their families. Haynesworth didn't like that so he protested by showing up over an hour late and urging his teammates to do the same. If the Texans show signs of crumbling down the stretch again, Haynesworth's brand of leadership isn't going to help them pull it together.

Maybe that's worth putting up with when he plays like has when the carrot of big $$$ is hanging in front of him, but based on his history (including 2009) there's no reason to believe the dominant Haynesworth would show up in Houston.

They're is alot of different dynamics to every situation. The Skins are a bad organization and last year crumbled within itself. The team virtually quit on Zorn and had no real leadership or direction to begin with. You could probably bring up a laundry list of "cancer" accusations about Randy Moss from 2006 too. Then he goes on and has the type of year in 2007 with the Patriots that breaks records.

[Warren]

I don't think the Moss situation is comparable because the 2010 Texans aren't the 2007 Patriots. The Pats had Belichick, Brady, and a bunch of other guys with Super Bowl rings, and could realistically offer Moss a shot at a ring of his own. The Texan players and coaches haven't earned the same respect as winners (and when Haynesworth was with the Titans he made it clear he does not respect Schaub) and are hoping to make the playoffs for the first time.

I also find it very telling that Shanahan inherited a roster full of holes yet is willing to part with a player as talented as Haynesworth relatively cheaply.

[Fonz the Boss]

Its plain ans simple.... if you want the best players on your team you gotta pay up. If they dont want to trade for Haynesworth because of the remaining contract then they can settle for their mediocre DTs on the roster.

[popanot]

I'd love to have the motivated Haynesworth in the fold. That version would obviously be a major updgrade to anything we have now. However, I think it speaks volumes that no one (not even egomanics like Belichick, Ryan, Jerry Jones, Parcells, etc.) has made a serious offer for him. NFL insiders probably know a few more things about him and/or the contract that we don't.

[gunn]

Heard Chris Mortenson on Mike & Mike this morning say that he wouldn't be surprised if Oakland traded Darren McFadden today. That would be a nice get for this team...