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Old 04-19-2010, 10:58 PM
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OK, I'm just going to readjust my thinking. Instead of focusing on Tate, I'm going to set my sights on Toby Gerhart as the workhorse RB to go into the mix with Foster and Slaton. I might just have to go for NEED in the first round. I ran a mock and came up with this for my collection....

1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
2. OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3. RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
4. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
5. DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
6a. FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
6b. LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson


Now, I understand that We don't need Weatherspoon, so I could have just gone with CB Kyle Wilson at #20 in this mock. There may be some who argue there's no NEED to get an OL in the 2nd round. Options included FS Morgan Burnett, DT Lamarr Houston, DT Linval Joseph, CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, or the RB's Tate/Hardesty. If I took a DT in the 2nd round, then in the 5th round I could have drafted an OL Shawn Lauvao.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:30 PM
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OK, I'm just going to readjust my thinking. Instead of focusing on Tate, I'm going to set my sights on Toby Gerhart as the workhorse RB to go into the mix with Foster and Slaton. I might just have to go for NEED in the first round. I ran a mock and came up with this for my collection....

1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
2. OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3. RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
4. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
5. DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
6a. FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
6b. LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson


Now, I understand that We don't need Weatherspoon, so I could have just gone with CB Kyle Wilson at #20 in this mock. There may be some who argue there's no NEED to get an OL in the 2nd round. Options included FS Morgan Burnett, DT Lamarr Houston, DT Linval Joseph, CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, or the RB's Tate/Hardesty. If I took a DT in the 2nd round, then in the 5th round I could have drafted an OL Shawn Lauvao.
What guys are there when you picked in the 4th? I am not looking at a DE at all much less that early.

If you went with Wilson or McCourty in the 1st your draft would cover a lot of the needs, plus there is not the need to go Weatherspoon and Edds, they have the same skill set.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:30 AM
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I sure like the idea of Weatherspoon in round 1. Pair that with signing Haynesworth and we would immediately have an elite front 7. Super Bowl caliber defense, IMO. Gerhart would probably enjoy running behind Jerry also. That ought to add a ton of red zone offense.


Well, I just heard on Path to the Draft that the Redskins will probably hold on to Fat Albert after all and just play him all across the line. Therefore, he may be a moot point.

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Old 04-20-2010, 12:34 PM
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I sure like the idea of Weatherspoon in round 1. Pair that with signing Haynesworth and we would immediately have an elite front 7. Super Bowl caliber defense, IMO. Gerhart would probably enjoy running behind Jerry also. That ought to add a ton of red zone offense.


Well, I just heard on Path to the Draft that the Redskins will probably hold on to Fat Albert after all and just play him all across the line. Therefore, he may be a moot point.
If you trade for Fat Albert you are most likely giving up a 1st to 3rd round pick, so one of those guys is gone. I do not see the Redskins taking a future pick based on playing time, but if we could trade a 2011 conditional pick for him....
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:08 AM
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What guys are there when you picked in the 4th? I am not looking at a DE at all much less that early.

If you went with Wilson or McCourty in the 1st your draft would cover a lot of the needs, plus there is not the need to go Weatherspoon and Edds, they have the same skill set.
4th round possibles...
CB Kevin Thomas
CB Walter McFadden
CB Alterraun Verner
NFLDraftScout.com now has Geno Atkins ranked #118, so I'd probably take him. They updated their list this morning. I am not 'looking' for a DE per se, but Te'o-Nesheim is just BPA in my estimation at a position of impact. Can a team play the Colts twice a year and really have too many pass-rushers?

I picked up Edds to remind me that I could get him later and by simply changing my 1st round pick, I could have a decent draft (in terms of filling needs).
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:44 PM
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1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
2. OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3. RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
4. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
5. DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
6a. FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
6b. LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson


Now, I understand that We don't need Weatherspoon, so I could have just gone with CB Kyle Wilson at #20 in this mock. .
1. CB Kyle Wilson Boise St.
2. OG John Jerry Mississippi
3. RB Toby Gerhart Stanford
4. DT Geno Atkins Georgia
5. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim Washington
6a. FS Robert Johnson Utah
6b. LB AJ Edds Iowa
7. CB Crezdon Butler Clemson

This may be the best I could do and that's IF these guys are available when we pick. Kyle Wilson 'replaces' the perceived "Shut Down" CB that we lost in Dunta Robinson. John Jerry is fast enough to be considered a ZBS and yet large enough to make a hole to run through. Toby Gerhart may be the steal of the draft because he's White (that's a strange thought). Geno Atkins may get more sacks and TFLs than Okoye. Te'o-Nesheim is another body to bring in and perhaps a better version of Antonio Smith as he gets older. Robert Johnson isn't exactly Eric Berry or Earl Thomas, but he is a ballhawk and we don't spend a 1st rounder to get him. Edds isn't fast, but he's intelligent and may lead the team in INTERCEPTIONS as a rookie LB. With Quinn and Wilson on the outside, I'd let Butler play the Nickle.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:51 PM
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Default CMD #28 19 April

20 CB Kareem Jackson
51 OG John Jerry
81 RB Ben Tate
118 DT Linval Joseph
150 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
187 FS Robert Johnson
197 CB Crezdon Butler
227 RB Deji Karim

Some of the picks the simulator and I agree on. Interestingly, my pick at #20 was the computer's pick at #51.
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:53 PM
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Default Final Board vs. Final Simulator....

20 CB Kareem Jackson
51 RB Jahvid Best
81 RB Ben Tate
118 DT Linval Joseph
150 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
187 FS Robert Johnson
197 OG Shelley Smith
227 CB Crezdon Butler

A CB to replace Dunta followed by two complementary runningbacks. A huge body in the middle and another pass-rusher. A ball-hawk Free Safety that has the hands to make interceptions. An athletic OL from Colorado. Another CB and Special Teams contributor. Yeah, I could be o.k. with this if I couldn't trade and get more picks.
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