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Old 04-16-2010, 04:58 PM
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I say make your picks into the strength of the Draft and therefor I'd like to use our first 2 picks on a CB & DT, the corner position of course is a bigger need area and then use the 3rd rounder on a back.
CB Patrick Robinson
DT Tyson Alualu
RB Anthony Dixon

Does that sound good? Cause that might be the best we can get.
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:45 PM
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Another Mock where the CB/RB elude me until late

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon
51 OG John Jerry
81 DT Geno Atkins
118 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
150 CB Trevard Lindley
187 S Robert Johnson
197 RB Andre Anderson
227 CB Crezdon Butler

I'll have to get another RB in the UDFA pool. My first call will most likely go to Kentucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIYtg...eature=related

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...;pageContainer

03/18/2010 - NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Alfonso Smith, RB, Kentucky: Smith ran for only 712 yards in his four years at Kentucky, but the 6-0, 211-pound senior put on a show for scouts at his pro day with 4.38 40, 36" vertical, 19 reps. That size and speed, along with his ability as a reciever and kick returner, will intrigue a team enough to at least make a call to his agent on Saturday afternoon to secure his services after the draft - if he's not picked up late. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:00 PM
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Another Mock where the CB/RB elude me until late

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon
51 OG John Jerry
81 DT Geno Atkins
118 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
150 CB Trevard Lindley
187 S Robert Johnson
197 RB Andre Anderson
227 CB Crezdon Butler

I'll have to get another RB in the UDFA pool. My first call will most likely go to Kentucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIYtg...eature=related

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...;pageContainer

03/18/2010 - NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Alfonso Smith, RB, Kentucky: Smith ran for only 712 yards in his four years at Kentucky, but the 6-0, 211-pound senior put on a show for scouts at his pro day with 4.38 40, 36" vertical, 19 reps. That size and speed, along with his ability as a reciever and kick returner, will intrigue a team enough to at least make a call to his agent on Saturday afternoon to secure his services after the draft - if he's not picked up late. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

On another board i go to, a Kentucky fan was asked about Smith, he said to not even waste a roster space on the guy, he is not an instinctive runner, and he does not play to his pro day time.
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:16 PM
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I thought there's not much harm in taking a guy as an UDFA and putting him on the practice squad to see if he develops. I think I'm just going to take Ben Tate in the 2nd round regardless of who is on the board. Then just hope that I can get an OL in the 3rd round like Asamoah, Jerry, or Walton.

This may be how I'd like the draft to turn out based upon filling needs with the best available talent....according to Draft Tek's Player List

20 CB Kyle Wilson
51 RB Ben Tate
81 OG Jon Asamoah
118 NT Linval Joseph
150 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
187 3T Earl Mitchell
197 S Robert Johnson
227 CB Crezdon Butler
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:35 AM
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CB Patrick Robinson
DT Tyson Alualu
RB Anthony Dixon

Does that sound good? Cause that might be the best we can get.
I like it !
Are you becoming a Patrick Robinson fan ? I thought he was the best CB in the SB game, but that's my only opportunity to see him as I never saw any of his FSU games ? Apparently the big knock on him during his college career was that he was "inconsistant".
I love Alualu, but there's so many good 3-Tech DT guys in this Draft that seriously really might be there for us in the second round.
Tell you what and I digress here, but I almost wish we had not drafted Connor Barwin last year, because Brandon Graham may be the single player who I was most impressed with from SB week, game and practice.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:57 AM
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I am impressed with Brandon Graham, but I think he's a 3/4 OLB. If he played on the Texans, we'd need to play him at the SAM, and that's where we have Cushing. Barwin was a very good pick in the 2nd round and I expect that we can expect 6 - 9 sacks from him this season as he was just learning the position last year and at the NFL level. Barwin's advantage over Graham is that he has more arm length and height, so he doesn't have to play as wide outside the OT to get to the QB.

When it comes to the CBs in the draft, I've made it known that I like them all about the same. They all have weaknesses that they bring. When they say that Robinson was 'inconsistent' that is a nice way to say he loses his focus. I don't know if he has ADD or what, but there are times during the game it looks like he is hypnotized and isn't paying attention to what he's doing. At other times, he looks like Champ Bailey, so go figure.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:23 AM
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I am impressed with Brandon Graham, but I think he's a 3/4 OLB. If he played on the Texans, we'd need to play him at the SAM, and that's where we have Cushing. Barwin was a very good pick in the 2nd round and I expect that we can expect 6 - 9 sacks from him this season as he was just learning the position last year and at the NFL level. Barwin's advantage over Graham is that he has more arm length and height, so he doesn't have to play as wide outside the OT to get to the QB.
Would you play Dwight Freeney at the SAM? Because that's who he reminds me of, he was unblockable at the Senior Bowl. IMO, I think Barwin would make the better SAM or MIKE simply based on his size, speed, and TE experience.
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Would you play Dwight Freeney at the SAM? Because that's who he reminds me of, he was unblockable at the Senior Bowl. IMO, I think Barwin would make the better SAM or MIKE simply based on his size, speed, and TE experience.
I think you draft Graham and then draft Cody and go to a 3-4 with Barwin and Graham as OLBs, Cushing and Ryans as ILBs, your DE's are Mario and Smith backed up by Cody and Okoye, and NT is Cody and Okam.Then you have everyone attach the other side of the line of scrimmage on every play. No read and react, just attach attach attach. Heck bring Glanville in to be the DC.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:52 AM
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Would you play Dwight Freeney at the SAM? Because that's who he reminds me of, he was unblockable at the Senior Bowl.
Yup, that's who I thought of myself almost immediately when I first saw him making fools of all those OTs in the one-on-one drills in practice. You'd almost want to draft the guy just to keep him out of your own division (damn I hope the Titans or Jags don't somehow end up with him !).
And even though he was undersized (like Freeney) they said the thought was he could play in the 4-3 at the next level because he was also so strong against the run, though I do think RP is right in that he'd be best in the 3-4
(but then I feel that way about Connor Barwin).
Hey BTW, I read somewhere that Grahmn tore-up Iowas Bulaga when they played each other in their Big Ten game.
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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Would you play Dwight Freeney at the SAM?
If his arms were 30" - then I would. If Freeney was as slow as Graham, then I would. However, Graham is no Freeney. He is closer to Lamar Woodley, but Woodley has longer arms to fight off TE's and OT's.
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Old 04-17-2010, 02:34 PM
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If his arms were 30" - then I would. If Freeney was as slow as Graham, then I would. However, Graham is no Freeney. He is closer to Lamar Woodley, but Woodley has longer arms to fight off TE's and OT's.
I saw on NFLN a few days ago a report that his arms were 32", either way, he's a very intriguing prospect. I honestly believe he'd be a better DE in a 4-3.

I also heard the report about Buluga, who I feel is a RT. I think our RT, Winston, would struggle against him as well. I'd be alright with taking Graham at 20 if we knew we were gonna start him opposite Mario, move Smith into Okoye's spot, and have Barwin fresh to relieve both ends to keep constant pressure on teams while Okoye would spell Smith.
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Old 04-17-2010, 03:27 PM
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I'd be alright with taking Graham at 20 if we knew we were gonna start him opposite Mario, move Smith into Okoye's spot, and have Barwin fresh to relieve both ends to keep constant pressure on teams while Okoye would spell Smith.
See, that is the difference between us. I am wanting to do that exact same thing with pick #150 Daniel Te'o-Nesheim.
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