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It's not easy finding a NT like Vince Wilfork or Haloti Ngata. The combo of size, speed, power, leverage, and strength is highly coveted. There isn't one in every draft. I believe the closest physical specimen in this draft is Linval Joseph. He isn't going to be drafted in the first round like the two prototypes because of several reasons. However, there are some strengths and similarities.
Pos---Name---Height-Weight---40------Reps-----Vert------20----10----Jump-----3-Cone--Shuttle DT-Linval Joseph-6'6"-328lbs--5.09------39------30------2.91---1.75----8.25------8.12------4.71 wilfork/ngata----6'3"- 340lbs-5.08/5.13-36/37-26.5/31.5- /2.96- /1.73-8.42/9.2---7.6/7.97---4.5/4.69 Now, I won't tell you that Linval is the next great NT just because of his measurables. I will say, that for a 4th round pick, I'm ready to take the risk that he develops into a solid starter who can stuff the run.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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Draftek has Joseph gone before the Texans' pick. 1. M. Pouncey G/C 2. B. Ghee CB 3. T. Gerhart RB 4. Torrell Troup DT 5. Myron Lewis FS 6. Marcus Easley WR 6. David Pender CB 7. Kion Wilson LB I would probably like Geno Atkins or Lamar Houston in the 3rd, but would be left with a risky pick for RB after the 3rd. |
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1. FS Earl Thomas 2. CB Brandon Ghee, OG Jon Asamoah, RB Ben Tate 3. RB Ben Tate, DT Geno Atkins, DT Lamarr Houston, RB Toby Gerhart 4. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, CB Alterraun Verner, CB AJ Jefferson, RB James Starks 5. CB AJ Jefferson, LB Pat Angerer, CB Kevin Thomas, OC Eric Olsen 6. CB Kevin Thomas, LB Simoni Lawrence, OC Joe Hawley 6. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim [Still on the board], LB Simoni Lawrence, OC Joe Hawley 7. LB Simoni Lawrence, CB Crezdon Butler, DT Jay Ross
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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I got a run-stuffer in the 4th round. A little upset I couldn't get Geno Atkins, but that's why I keep wanting to trade down. Then again, I was able to get Earl Thomas without trading up, so that's good. I still would like to trade down in the 2nd round, though.
1. S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas 2. OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois 3. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn 4. DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida 5. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 6. CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC 6. LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota 7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wLGeSdHgO0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhQucP7DjYE
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. Last edited by Roy P; 04-03-2010 at 09:59 PM. |
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1. OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
2. CB/FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest 3. RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford 4. DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida 5. CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC 6. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 6. LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota 7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson I can't pass on Trent Williams unless Eric Berry is still on the board. I don't see him lasting that long, but if the draft gods smile upon us, I'm taking Trent. In the 2nd round I was tempted to take Jon Asamoah, but since Trent Williams was on the roster, I decided to address the Secondary. I believe if we don't draft a RB by the 3rd round, we won't get anyone worth a damn better than any old RB we could sign as an UDFA (Arian Foster). The 4th round is some beef in the middle to help out Cody. The 5th round is a steal that has injury concerns causing him to slip. The 6th round pick may allow Antonio Smith to play some more 3-Tech and Special Teams help. I must be higher on Crezdon Butler than anyone else, but I think he could be our Nickleback.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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I saw you mention earlier Stephen Williams out of Toledo, he'd be a great story considering he's a local product. I really like him and have included him on some of my earlier mocks. Here's what I came up with, in an absent Earl Thomas draft: 1. Brian Price DT 2. Chris Cook CB 3. Jonathan Dwyer or Anthony Dixon RB 4. Jamar Chaney OLB 5. Myron Lewis FS 6a. Jay Ross NT 6b. Lindsey Witten DE 7. Vlad Richard OG UFA. Joshua Moore CB Assuming Earl Thomas was taken by the 49ers, I select the next highest player on my board, Brian Price. He'll put plenty of interior pressure on the Colt's, Titan's and Jag's O-line. In round 2, I select Cook who I feel can start opposite from Quin and not be a liability in coverage. His size and athleticism should provide a boost to our secondary. I take the best RB available in the 3rd round. Next I look to bolster LB position off the edge, we're always susceptible to that with Chris Johnson in our division. Chaney is hands down the best OLB available. In the 5th we get lucky and find M. Lewis still on the board and the Texans go to the podium within 10 seconds. He will compete for the starting job at FS. The 6th round is focused on getting better, stronger and faster up front. The D-line has been put on notice. The 7th adds another piece to the offensive line, which has already been addressed through FA. Moore has a chance to stick if Molden can't stay healthy this fall. He'd be great in nickle packages. I really like this kid. |
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Well done, Blitzwood. Obviously, I don't share the same opinion on some of your players, but I like your thought process. Getting some speed at the WILL is important to me in order to chase MJD and CJ2K. I've thought about adding Josh Moore at the end of my own draftboard.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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2. CB/FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest 3. DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia 4. DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida 5. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 6. CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC 6. RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane 7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson The thought of Geno Atkins getting after the QB makes me pretty happy. The question comes into play, is Andre Anderson a short-yardage back? If he is running behind Trent Williams, he just might be.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtUuseJjmCE
2:58 and 7:28 show some good vision. He caught my eye in the E/W Shrine game along with his WR teammate Jeremy Williams. Anyway, Terrell Davis was a 6th round pick, so why not? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...;pageContainer "Goes downhill with a burst through the line when inside holes are available Good vertical to jump over piles at the goal line. Able to make one cut to head upfield, although he could improve his vision to find the hole. Carries the ball in outside hand. Keeps his legs moving and leans his body forward through contact to get extra yardage or break free for a big gain. Usually falls forward. "
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. |
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