Mock Drafts

[Joe Joe]

Originally Posted by painekiller

OK i may have cheated a little on the CBS Sports.com list I used. I know guys rated #16 as Dan Williams was, can drop to our pick at 20. I did this through out my mock. I am going to redo it as if the list is the real mock and any one ranked before our pick is off limits. Here is my new Texans mock 3-15-10:

1st Round (Pick #20) - Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State 6-0 218
BPA, has the look of a franchise back in our system.

2nd Round (Pick#51) - Lamarr Houston DT Texas 6-3 305. Plays with a high motor, will penetrate the backfield and disrupt plays.

5th Round (Pick#149) - Marshall Newhouse OG TCU 6-4 319 Has excellent feet, can play 4 position in a pinch, RG in our system.

I like these guys. Houston is my guess at the best pro from the Horns this year. Kindle is very streaky and needs a lot of work to keep from running himself out of plays. Thomas...well I have him pretty much equal with Houston and he'll probably have a flashier career than Houston. McCoy...he could become a "Brady"....but most likely a guy that is a career backup/low tier starter. Houston is very good at picking up sacks when the DE forces a QB to step up.

Newhouse...I like him a lot. I think he is mobile for a big guy. I wouldn't have a problem if he was the third round pick. I think he would start for Texans by 2011.

Other guys, I haven't seen. I am very worried about CB. I had really hoped the Texans had gotten a CB in FA so they wouldn't have to worry about getting one in a CB wasn't BPA.

[painekiller]

The General just had his online chat, and if you believe he is correct (this is not about is he correct) then the Texans draft might look like this.

1st Mathews RB Fresno St. McClain's scouts are telling him Thomas will be gone

2nd Lamarr Houston DT Texas The Texans need a pass rusher from the DT position, and he is what they thought they were getting in Okoye. Plus there is still depth at CB, not so much at DT.

3rd Amari Spievey CB Iowa I know i keep bring his name up, sub 4.5, solid play in zone and man.

4th Ben Tate RB Auburn Depth at a need position.

5th Donovan Warren FS/CB Michigan Ran at the combine on a bad ankle, rehurt it doing position drills. May need surgery on the ankle. Has the size to be a FS.

6th Marshall Newhouse OG TCU doubt he last this long so Shelley Smith OG Colorado State 6-3 300 remember this name, you may see it again, An honorable-mention all-conference selection, allowed only two QB hurries on the season, finishing with nearly 50 knockdown blocks in conference play alone, and 19 "outstanding efforts"

6th Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State or Nolan Carroll CB Maryland More Depth?

7th Jeff Byers C Southern California solid work ethic guy, can play 3 positions

John McClain said the position of need are RB, CB, DT, FS. He also said they would be trying to gather depth for these positions. He did not think they are looking at OL in the first 4 rounds.

Now I do not see them going with 2 RBs, much less 3, but the Cowboys did this a few years ago and hit a homerun by taking Choice late, so why not.

McClain thought the Texans do not take QB, or WR this season, even for depth. Might look TE is one of the hurt guys is behind schedule.

McClain said Pitts has had discussions with the Texans, he is not going to be cleared until June, so no teams are moving to sign him yet, but he would be signed by someone.

Brown Smith Myers Briesel Winston or LZs lineup (from one of the questioners) Brown Caldwell Smith Brisiel Winston. Dennison loves Smith.

[NBT]

How often has the general been right? Not very. He knows more about the Titans than he does the Texans.

At this point, before the draft almost every year, the speculation on the first pick is usually all over the lot. I respect PK's opinons, but Kubiak has almost never gone for RB in the first, so I don't see him doing it this year. And besides the need (as I have repeated ad naseum) is for DT CB/FS, so that is where I say we go.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

1st Mathews RB Fresno St. McClain's scouts are telling him Thomas will be gone

2nd Lamarr Houston DT Texas The Texans need a pass rusher from the DT position, and he is what they thought they were getting in Okoye. Plus there is still depth at CB, not so much at DT.

3rd Amari Spievey CB Iowa I know i keep bring his name up, sub 4.5, solid play in zone and man.

4th Ben Tate RB Auburn Depth at a need position.

5th Donovan Warren FS/CB Michigan Ran at the combine on a bad ankle, rehurt it doing position drills. May need surgery on the ankle. Has the size to be a FS.

6th Marshall Newhouse OG TCU doubt he last this long so Shelley Smith OG Colorado State 6-3 300 remember this name, you may see it again, An honorable-mention all-conference selection, allowed only two QB hurries on the season, finishing with nearly 50 knockdown blocks in conference play alone, and 19 "outstanding efforts"

6th Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State or Nolan Carroll CB Maryland More Depth?

7th Jeff Byers C Southern California solid work ethic guy, can play 3 positions

He did not think they are looking at OL in the first 4 rounds.

McClain thought the Texans do not take QB, or WR this season, even for depth. Might look TE is one of the hurt guys is behind schedule.

Dennison loves Smith.

I believe Earl Thomas will be gone too. With all of the RBs in the draft, I would be pleased if we just went with the BPA in the first round (Sean Weatherspoon). I'd even be willing to go for need (Kyle Wilson or Devin McCourty).

I disagree that there is more depth at CB than DT so I'd flip the two (2nd vs 3rd round). That's just me though.

If we can snag Ben Tate in the 4th round, that will be a shocker to me. Tate is a 2nd round talent, so the only reason I can see him being considered in the 4th is because of the other RBs, or because he's a serial killer.

Getting D. Warren in the 5th is a smart pick. His talent suggests that he's better than a 5th rounder, but that 40 time is hard to shake. He may just be a huge bargain.

I think Newhouse goes earlier, but I could definitely see Smith being a Texan. He's a light, agile, Colorado football player. If his name was Kubiak, I'd guarantee this pick.

Miller is just underrated right now. He'll be gone in the 4th where people are expecting Tate.

Byers is older, which might not be a bad thing. I saw him run downfield on a screen in the All-Star game and thought, that could be useful.

Not going after any OL in the first 4 rounds could be a painful mistake. No QB or WR is fine by me. Looking at TE though....Pitta, Dickerson, Moeaki.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Not going after any OL in the first 4 rounds could be a painful mistake. No QB or WR is fine by me. Looking at TE though....Pitta, Dickerson, Moeaki.

That was McClain saying that he thought the Texans would not take an OL in the 1st four rounds.

I think this a great OL draft late and I would grab me some. But only one OG and one OC are rated in the top 50, so that makes going after a middle OL tough in the 1st or the 2nd without a trade down.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

But only one OG and one OC are rated in the top 50, so that makes going after a middle OL tough in the 1st or the 2nd without a trade down.

Saffold is #51 and will be a LG in the NFL. Asamoah wouldn't be a "reach" considering who is out there. John Jerry is #83 so, that's right at our 3rd round pick. Does anybody remember the last LT we had that was pretty good? A big body that wasn't a prototype ZBS guy. Spencer, I think?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Saffold is #51 and will be a LG in the NFL. Asamoah wouldn't be a "reach" considering who is out there. John Jerry is #83 so, that's right at our 3rd round pick. Does anybody remember the last LT we had that was pretty good? A big body that wasn't a prototype ZBS guy. Spencer, I think?

And the huddlereport has Saffold at 95, Asamoah is 64, Jerry is 82. This years class is ranked all over the map by the internet gurus, so that tells me that a lot of the players are bunched up together.

I like Saffold, but not at 51.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

And the huddlereport has Saffold at 95, Asamoah is 64, Jerry is 82. This years class is ranked all over the map by the internet gurus, so that tells me that a lot of the players are bunched up together.

I like Saffold, but not at 51.

Yeah, I'll be happy with whoever is still there in the 3rd.