GBN 2 round mock with trade

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by NBT

I'm afraid that trade would make for a better pass rush at the expense of a good run defense. I'm afraid I would pass on that. And who would play the Mike?

You think adding Suh would be at the expense of the run defense?

Who would play the Mike?....Maybe Cushing could and then Barwin could play SAM. Maybe Free Agent Larry Foote? Perhaps Diles or Bentley and then Freeman or Adibi or a draft pick plays the Will (Jamar Chaney, Dekoda Watson, AJ Edds, Rennie Curran, Simoni Lawrence, or Kavell Conner). Maybe they draft Brandon Spikes at #51. They could wait on Pat Angerer later in the draft.

I'm not advocating this line of action, just thinking outside the box. Not sure if Tampa would want to do that deal for Ryans and #20 for the opportunity to draft Suh.

I think having Dan Williams would have a similar result and we wouldn't have to trade Ryans to get him.

[HPF Bob]

Here's a more interesting offer. Would you deal #20, Amobi and next year's first-rounder for #3? (I'd tap dance if it were Suh and I might even learn to pronounce his first name but it would probably be McCoy anyway).

The Bucs might do it because they get out of the #3 spot, they take Okoye's contract for a couple of years (and who knows if he might yet develop) and they get a low first for the next two seasons to help them rebuild.

The Texans unload a bad contract and get an expensive but stud d-lineman to complete their front four (I think you'll see more Barwin next year opposite Mario). It will cost them a #1 next year which would be the only downside but they can trade one of their WRs (Jones?) to get an extra draft pick for next year.

[Roy P]

I'd trade #20 and Amobi for Dan Williams and keep my first round pick for next year if it's the difference between Gerald McCoy and him.

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by Roy P

You think adding Suh would be at the expense of the run defense?

Who would play the Mike?....Maybe Cushing could and then Barwin could play SAM. Maybe Free Agent Larry Foote? Perhaps Diles or Bentley and then Freeman or Adibi or a draft pick plays the Will (Jamar Chaney, Dekoda Watson, AJ Edds, Rennie Curran, Simoni Lawrence, or Kavell Conner). Maybe they draft Brandon Spikes at #51. They could wait on Pat Angerer later in the draft.

I'm not advocating this line of action, just thinking outside the box. Not sure if Tampa would want to do that deal for Ryans and #20 for the opportunity to draft Suh.

I think having Dan Williams would have a similar result and we wouldn't have to trade Ryans to get him.

Remind me, not to question your football knowledge. How do you plan to draft Dan Williams? Do you advocate just trading up a few slots or hoping he falls to us?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by kRocket

How do you plan to draft Dan Williams? Do you advocate just trading up a few slots or hoping he falls to us?

I'm saying that trading up a few slots for Dan Williams is a lot easier than trying to get up to the #3 slot from #20. I am hoping that he falls to us, but I wouldn't bet on it considering the situation in Miami.

Today, I'm not going to say how high or who with I'd trade with. The dynamic I'd want to see during the draft is when the FS's and OT's start to come off the board. I can envision a scenario where we could move up to #15 in order to draft one of my top 4 players.

1 S Eric Berry
2 DT Dan Williams
3 S Earl Thomas
4 OT Trent Williams

If all 4 are still on the board, then I'd wait at #20. If they are all off the board, I'll cross my fingers and hope that Weatherspoon is there when my turn is up.

By the way, feel free to question my football knowledge. It makes me think.

[kRocket]

Roy, the one hope we have is that some "draft darlings" will rise up the chart and may push some of those guys down to us. I loved the draft you posted in another thread that started with Dan Williams, Kyle, and Ben.

I could get to be a T. Cody fan also. He does have a weight problem, but in the last two years none of the SEC backs gained 100 yds in one game against Alabama. That says something to me.

Not advocating 1st round, Hehe!

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by kRocket

I could get to be a T. Cody fan also. He does have a weight problem, but in the last two years none of the SEC backs gained 100 yds in one game against Alabama. That says something to me.

Mt. Cody is a guy that should be a 2nd round pick. I'm hoping that he's somebody else's 2nd round pick, but that is just me. To be quite honest, I was happy that we signed Shaun Cody last year. If we are looking for a wide body to play the nose, unless we get Dan Williams, I'll be content with Linval Joseph, Torrell Troup, or Jay Ross later on. The 2nd round pick is either going to be an OL, RB, CB, or a DT that gets up the field and causes havoc on the QB like Houston or Alualu.