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Old 02-28-2010, 08:53 AM
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I think we all are going to be surprised when guys like Warren fly off the board in the 2nd, and Watson in the 3rd. The pro scouts have a whole different view on these guys then places like drafttek.

Saffold who drafttek has as a 2nd day guy, (the 4th round or high, old school) is looking more and more like a 2nd or early 3rd round guy.

As we get closer to the draft QBs and RBs tend to drop, this year I predict TEs dropping due to the depth at TE.

The CB position is always a position of need and there is a group of guys that ranked from the 2nd CB to about 10th that are pretty interchangeable. IMO we should try to grab two of those guys.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:24 AM
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I think we all are going to be surprised when guys like Warren fly off the board in the 2nd, and Watson in the 3rd. The pro scouts have a whole different view on these guys then places like drafttek.

Saffold who drafttek has as a 2nd day guy, (the 4th round or high, old school) is looking more and more like a 2nd or early 3rd round guy.
Warren could go anywhere between #50 - #94.

Drafttek has Saffold being drafted by the Steelers at #82 right in front of the Texans in the 3rd round.

The guys I see as being way underrated right now are OG John Jerry and RB Ben Tate and they are 4th round picks right now (#122 & #124).
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:39 AM
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I think we all are going to be surprised when guys like Warren fly off the board in the 2nd, and Watson in the 3rd.
I was conflicted about drafting Watson because we have Adibi on special teams waiting for the right opportunity and Marcus Freeman on the practice squad. But one thing I did notice last year was how OLB's fell in the draft.

While I agree with you that CB's is always a position of need and the 2nd and 10th are pretty interchangeable, this is a pretty deep class of CB's and we should find a serviceable one in the third. That definitely wasn't the case last year when the talent fell off rather quickly after the forth or fifth CB taken.

This draft also seems to be heavy on DE's, as well.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:55 PM
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I was conflicted about drafting Watson because we have Adibi on special teams waiting for the right opportunity and Marcus Freeman on the practice squad. But one thing I did notice last year was how OLB's fell in the draft.

While I agree with you that CB's is always a position of need and the 2nd and 10th are pretty interchangeable, this is a pretty deep class of CB's and we should find a serviceable one in the third. That definitely wasn't the case last year when the talent fell off rather quickly after the forth or fifth CB taken.

This draft also seems to be heavy on DE's, as well.
I don't have a problem with Watson, I think he is underrated. He had a very solid Senior Bowl, and has been on my list of players to follow most of the season. I think he would be a solid WILL in the NFL. IMO Adibi needs a wakeup call and Watson would be that.

BTW I am interested in seeing Freeman and what he can do.

Lastly solid take on the CBs.
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Old 03-02-2010, 01:30 PM
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DraftTek has a new mock dated 3/2. rev 20

20 Trent Williams Oklahoma OG
51 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
81 Anthony Dixon Mississippi State RBF
115 Willie Young DE43 North Carolina State
146 D'Anthony Smith DT43Louisiana Tech
177 Robert Johnson FS Utah
187 Naaman Roosevelt WRF Buffalo
211 Dorin Dickerson FB Pittsburgh

Mixed feeling on this draft. What the hey in the 1st Graham, Pouncey, Wilson, Mathews, Mays and Tate are still on the board. 2nd round steal IMO. Strange draft.

My take with the Combine behind us

20 Brandon Graham Michigan DE43
51 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
81 Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
115 Mitch Petrus OG Arkansas
146 Charles Scott RBF LSU
177 Robert Johnson FS Utah
187 Lonyae Miller RBF Fresno State
211 Jeff Byers USC OG
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:07 PM
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Drafttek weekly mock is up: #20 3/09/10

1 Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF
2 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB
3 Rob Gronkowski Arizona TE
4 Austen Lane Murray State DE
5 Myron Lewis Vanderbilt FS
6a Brandon Deaderick Alabama DT
6b Marshall Newhouse TCU OG
7 Jason Harmon Florida Atlantic FB


My cherry picks
BPA for Need
1 Mike Iupati Idaho OG
2 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB
3 Joe McKnight RBC USC
4 Amari Spievey Iowa CB
5 Ted Larsen OC North Carolina State
6a Myron Rolle Florida State FS
6b Lonyae Miller Fresno State RB
7 Leigh Tiffin Alabama PK

BPA
1 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
2 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB
3 J.D. Walton Baylor OG
4 Amari Spievey Iowa CB
5 Zane Beadles Utah OG
6a John Skelton Fordham QB
6b Lonyae Miller Fresno State RB
7 Van Eskridge East Carolina FS
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:06 PM
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Drafttek weekly mock is up: #20 3/09/10

BPA
1 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
2 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB
3 J.D. Walton Baylor OG
4 Amari Spievey Iowa CB
5 Zane Beadles Utah OG
6a John Skelton Fordham QB
6b Lonyae Miller Fresno State RB
7 Van Eskridge East Carolina FS
1. DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.17 Tennessee
2. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
3. RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
4. S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
5. LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
6a. DT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 5.21 East Carolina
6b. OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
7. CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.

I almost drafted Lonyae Miller in the 7th round, but since I had Ben Tate, it seemed like too crowded in the backfield. I also have the belief that we can't have too many good corners until Fred Bennett or Antaun Molden show me something. Stuckey isn't the "cover" FS that I covet, but I just like the way he plays. I'm moving Chaney to the WILL. Getting Dan Williams improves the defense on all 3 levels.
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Old 03-13-2010, 04:54 PM
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Trade down time
San Diego is looking for a RB and Jonathan Dwyer fits their system. We swap our #20 and 81 for their #28 and 60. This gives us 3 picks in the top 60 players.

Then in the 3rd you give a 2011 2nd round pick for #75

28 Dan Williams Tennessee DT43
51 Kyle Wilson Boise State CB
60 Ryan Mathews Fresno State RBF
75 Tyson Alualu California DT43
115 Darrell Stuckey Kansas SS
146 Zane Beadles Utah OG
177 John Skelton Fordham QB
187 Marshall Newhouse TCU OG
211 Lonyae Miller RBF Fresno State

My DBs are better because I have William and Alualu, and my run defense just got better. No way Mathews last until 60 in the real draft, but he was available here, and we paired him with his old team mate Millers in the 7th. Stuckey is solid against the run and showed surprising speed, not a bad pick in the 4th.

I heard one of the players saying on the radio, not sure which one could have been Jacoby Jones, they thought DT was what the defense needed. They thought an inside push helped all the DBs and the LBs also.

I would be 100% behind this draft.
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