WalterFootballs 4-Round Mock

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by kRocket

Guys:

How accurate is nfldraftscout.com historically? Their ratings and rankings and draft round predictions ?

About as accurate as anybody else on the day of the draft

Guys that are currently listed where they are, may or may not be listed in the same round 6 weeks from now. This is an amorphous ameoba, that is constantly changing shape.

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by Roy P

About as accurate as anybody else on the day of the draft

Guys that are currently listed where they are, may or may not be listed in the same round 6 weeks from now. This is an amorphous amoeba, that is constantly changing shape.

Thanks Roy. I know there is a huge BS factor in all draft stuff that we are privy to, but they seem pretty thorough although it is just blanks that can be filled in.

Do you have better suggestions that don't cost a lot?

[Roy P]

My favorite is TheHuddleReport.com and it is really a combination of authors. Aaron Freeman works the Teams' Needs angle of the draft. Fred Jones does a probability thing considering the top 3 choices for a team. Robby Esch sort of compiles all the outside data with his own grades. However, the main reason I like it is because of Drew Boylhart. He is very opinionated and is the voice of the player profiles much like Mayock, Kiper, McShay, etc. You might not agree with everything he says, but at least he's willing to say that the 1st round consensus guy is going to be a BUST if somebody drafts him like all the experts are predicting. It only costs $10 per year.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/...ardstats.shtml

These are their stats in terms of accuracy. Again, the board changes until draft day, so today's board may not be the one to go by. However, it gives a pretty decent approximation.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

However, the main reason I like it is because of Drew Boylhart.

BOTTOM LINE

Because of Dan's size and quickness and good lateral agility he can play multiple positions in any style of defense for you. I have no doubt that he could be a DE in a 3-4 defense also because of his quickness off the line and lateral agility. Dan is as close to a finished product that you can get at the college level for his position. He has the speed to catch most QB's from behind when they break the pocket, which is surprising for a person who is as large as he is. Let me tell you, when you see Dan on film start to chase down a QB from behind, it's like sitting on a boat and staring at a stunt plane as you think it is diving into the horizon when in all actuality, it just dove directly into the lake your boat was sitting on It looks like it's all not happening in real time. That's why I call him Dan (Real Time) Williams because it looks like Dan is not playing in real time.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...n.Williams.htm
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So Roy, you're a Boylhart fan so IYO just what the hell is this guy saying here about Williams, because it's unclear to me what his message is, what metapher he's trying to use, or just what ? If I didn't know better I'd say he's maybe smokin something while he's writing up the player evaluations ? It is
colorful, kinda entertainingg language though. I think ? Does he always talk like this ?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

BOTTOM LINE

Because of Dan's size and quickness and good lateral agility he can play multiple positions in any style of defense for you. I have no doubt that he could be a DE in a 3-4 defense also because of his quickness off the line and lateral agility. Dan is as close to a finished product that you can get at the college level for his position. He has the speed to catch most QB's from behind when they break the pocket, which is surprising for a person who is as large as he is. Let me tell you, when you see Dan on film start to chase down a QB from behind, it's like sitting on a boat and staring at a stunt plane as you think it is diving into the horizon when in all actuality, it just dove directly into the lake your boat was sitting on It looks like it's all not happening in real time. That's why I call him Dan (Real Time) Williams because it looks like Dan is not playing in real time.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...n.Williams.htm
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So Roy, you're a Boylhart fan so IYO just what the hell is this guy saying here about Williams, because it's unclear to me what his message is, what metapher he's trying to use, or just what ? If I didn't know better I'd say he's maybe smokin something while he's writing up the player evaluations ? It is
colorful, kinda entertainingg language though. I think ? Does he always talk like this ?

Have been a fan of the site for years, and yes Boylhart always talks like this. I like him too.

IMO Drew is saying that it appears Williams is playing faster than everyone else.

And no I do not always agree with him on guys. I use my own eyes as much as I can.

[Roy P]

What PK said.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Have been a fan of the site for years, and yes Boylhart always talks like this. I like him too.

IMO Drew is saying that it appears Williams is playing faster than everyone else.

And no I do not always agree with him on guys. I use my own eyes as much as I can.

OK then what we have here as they say "is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.....", right ? But I'll play along, and yea I agree it's kinda fun.
Thanks PK.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Have been a fan of the site for years, and yes Boylhart always talks like this. I like him too.

OK guys, I got another question about Boylhart and THR for you Boylhart fans ? In the "2010 Talent Board", one of the column headings has the title
"TBR" which I understand, according to the narrative, is "evaluations of each prospect to place them on the Talent Board according to the round in which that player’s talent warrants." ? For example Mike Iupati has a 4 under that column, so does that mean a round 4 rating, and if so how can Boylhart have Iupati rated as the player who gets drafted 17th overall in his latet mock ?
BTW, he's got us taking Dan Williams in his updated mock ?
17 OL Mike Iupati Idaho
This team wants and needs to run the ball more then it passes the ball so draft a road grader like Mike.
20 DT Dan Williams Tennessee
They need some bulk too stop the run. They can look at a RB later in the draft.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...cks/DREW.shtml

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

OK guys, I got another question about Boylhart and THR for you Boylhart fans ?

Ok, this is a simple question. Drew gave Iupati a 4th round grade based upon his Length To Impact. That means, if Drew were the GM of a team he would not draft Iupati until the 4th round. Now, as a mock, Drew is putting on the GM hat of every team and guessing what that team will be doing when they pick. Just because Boylhart thinks Iupati is going to be a late bloomer (read bust) that doesn't mean that he believes that SF shares that sentiment about the kid from Idaho. Perhaps Singletary buys into the hype machine that this LG is the next Steve Hutchinson/Alan Faneca and will allow him to run the ball and not depend upon Alex Smith.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

BOTTOM LINE

Let me tell you, when you see Dan on film start to chase down a QB from behind, it's like sitting on a boat and staring at a stunt plane as you think it is diving into the horizon when in all actuality, it just dove directly into the lake your boat was sitting on

Ok, this is what he is saying: Dan Williams is a lot closer than you imagine and it scares the $hit out of you, if you are the QB. The QB figures that a 320lbs NT is going to not be able to close that much ground in that short of a period of time. However, in all actuality, he really is that close and you better check your drawers for skid marks. Got it?

[NBT]

I would be extremely pleased if Dan Williams were there for us at #20.

[bckey]

The newest mock as of 2-16 has us taking:

1)Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
2)Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
3)Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia
4)Amari Spievey, CB, Iowa