Baby Shan Leaving Texans / Search for a New OC

[James]

I can't say that coaching with his dad is going to be as much of a resume builder with Redskins as staying here and leading the Texans to the playoffs with one of the premier aerial attacks in the league. Just look at what Josh McDaniels was offered in such a hurry. I really think a hard sale from McNair and Kubiak would help him to realize that and stick for at least another year or two until he is offered a head job somewhere, rather than regress in Washington.

[chuck]

If the Texans end up with an OC who can shift the red zone play calling from stupefyingly idiotic to cheerfully boneheaded that should be good for another four wins or so.

[TheMatrix31]

I wonder who the candidates are to fill Shanahan's spot.

[texan]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

I wonder who the candidates are to fill Shanahan's spot.

My money's on Rick Dennison.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by texan

My money's on Rick Dennison.

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/New...?story_id=6473
The Bears will look to create some stability for Cutler, who will work with his third offensive coordinator in as many seasons in 2010 following Rick Dennison in Denver and Ron Turner in Chicago.

Why wouldn't the Bears want to hire Dennison to work with Cutler in Chicago? Now that Kyle is going to D.C., I'd think the Bears would want to beat us to the punch on Dennison.


http://www.atlantafalcons.com/People..._Musgrave.aspx

This is the fellow I'm leaning towards.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

I wonder who the candidates are to fill Shanahan's spot.

Aren't Kubiak's sons recently graduated? j/k

[Keith]

Originally Posted by James

I can't say that coaching with his dad is going to be as much of a resume builder with Redskins as staying here and leading the Texans to the playoffs with one of the premier aerial attacks in the league.

This was the first thing that crossed my mind a few weeks or so ago when rumors of his father's return began. And unsaid here is that the Texans would have to grant permission to the Redskins for an interview since this would be a lateral move, right?

There would presumably be better job security by moving to the Redskins, given his father would just be entering a multi-year contract whereas Kubiak will be entering the last year of his in Houston (barring an extension, of course). Job security does not equal job sanity though.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Keith

There would presumably be better job security by moving to the Redskins, given his father would just be entering a multi-year contract whereas Kubiak will be entering the last year of his in Houston (barring an extension, of course). Job security does not equal job sanity though.

You know who owns the Redskins, right?

[Keith]

Originally Posted by chuck

You know who owns the Redskins, right?

Of course. But as it stands now, Kubiak has just one year left. Snyder may decide to axe Shanahan after one year, but I doubt it given the amount he'll be investing in his next head coach. And one would think that Mike wouldn't fire his son after one season, right?

But that's why I also referenced job sanity... working long days and nights with your father (seems over-romanticized to me once the "teehee, this is fun!" wears off) not to mention working for a crazy boss like Snyder might be detrimental to one's mental well-being.

[Keith]

chron.com has the short list of candidates to replace baby Shan:

The four candidates to replace Texans offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan are Tennessee offensive line coach Mike Munchak, Denver offensive line coach Rick Dennison, Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave and Kansas City offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. ...

Kubiak worked with Dennison, Musgrave and Gailey in Denver. He's never worked with Munchak, who has spent his entire 28-year playing and coaching career the Oilers/Titans.

Munchak has never been an offensive coordinator. He's coached the offensive line since he retired after the 1993 season.

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.
Kubiak tried to bring Dennison with him from the Broncos in 2006, but Mike Shanahan wouldn't let him out of his contract.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6798435.html

[Roy P]

Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.


--Put me down for this guy. The offense was able to produce some yardage, so I would like some "continuity" and familiarity. I realize there were times when the offense could not score in the red zone or convert short yardage situations, but I blame most of that on the interior OL and the RB.

[bckey]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Atlanta quarterbacks coach Bill Musgrave

Musgrave, a former NFL quarterback, coached Matt Schaub at the University of Virginia and with the Falcons.


--Put me down for this guy. The offense was able to produce some yardage, so I would like some "continuity" and familiarity. I realize there were times when the offense could not score in the red zone or convert short yardage situations, but I blame most of that on the interior OL and the RB.

I'm with Roy on this one.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by WMH

The Chronic is reporting that our request to interview him was denied....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6800366.html

I didn't think they could block it if it was a promotion.....Typical Bud Adams, screw you Houston shit. Not that I was a huge fan of this thought, but that is classless to keep a man down that wants to be a HC someday.

There used to be a rule that each team could designate two supervisory assistant coach positions (usually the coordinators) and non-supervisor assistants could interview for those jobs without having to get permission from their employers. That was changed so now an assistant under contract can’t interview with another team for a job other than head coach without permission. At least when the Cardinals blocked Bush from coming in 2006 they bumped him up to assistant head coach.

Originally Posted by Keith

But that's why I also referenced job sanity... working long days and nights with your father (seems over-romanticized to me once the "teehee, this is fun!" wears off) not to mention working for a crazy boss like Snyder might be detrimental to one's mental well-being.

I think Shanito also runs the risk of getting the same stigma that Kubiak had for a while in Denver -- that Big Shan is the one really running the offense.

Did it strike anyone else as a little odd that the Texans were openly looking for Lil Shan's replacement over 24 hours before Shan Sr.'s hiring was announced?

My guess is that Weis would go to a team with a defensive-minded head coach who will toss him the keys to the offense and let him do his thing. I think the fact that Kubiak is involved in the offense, though, gives the Texans more flexibility to get bring someone in who hasn’t been a coordinator or play-caller before.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Warren

My guess is that Weis would go to a team with a defensive-minded head coach who will toss him the keys to the offense and let him do his thing.

...or he could go to a team with a head coach with an offensive background like Todd Haley.

Speaking of fired college coaches, another name that came to mind is Steve Kragthorpe, most recently head coach at Louisville but who also had a decent stint as QB coach for the Bills. He and Kubiak coached at A&M within a few years of each other, so while they haven't worked together I'm sure they've worked with some of the same people.