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View Poll Results: Do We Need a Change at HC?
Yes, time for Kubiak to go. 9 37.50%
No, Kubiak needs at least one more season. 15 62.50%
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:53 PM
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I'll ask Dom Capers and get back to you on that.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:11 PM
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I just don't know who we would hire that's going to be better. Do we get a recycle or a new-comer? How much of a philosophy change do we need in terms of 3/4 defense or non-WCO? Is the GM going to be fired too? Then the scouts and all the rest?

The team is getting better. If they regress, then I say we fire Kubiak. The comment was made that we'd be a year behind IF Kubiak gets fired NEXT year. The converse is, we are 4 years ahead IF Kubiak takes the team to the SuperBowl next year.
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:12 PM
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I would think it ironic if Jim Fassell was the HC and Brian Billick the OC.
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:15 PM
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I'll ask Dom Capers and get back to you on that.
Why, Capers couldn't even get us to 8-8?
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:46 PM
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I think it's pretty clear that McNair is going to keep Kubiak for another year. And, despite my occasional hysterics, I think that's probably the right move.

As Roy asks, who's better? Cower? Sure, he's proven but he's not coming here. Who else? When I look calmly at the disappointing games we've seen I see a lot of players not making plays along with some isolated albeit incredibly idiotic coaching snafus.

If I owned the team I'd try to figure out if the players wanted to play for Kubiak. Do they believe in him? Will they bust their ass for him? If so, keep him around for another year and make it plain to him privately that the team needs to make the playoffs for you to keep your job. Period. Injuries, bad calls, whatever, who cares. No playoffs, no job. And for god's sake, no more halfback passes. Oh, and fire that idiot Marciano.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:52 AM
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If I owned the team I'd try to figure out if the players wanted to play for Kubiak. Do they believe in him? Will they bust their ass for him?
Quarterback Matt Schaub insists Kubiak still has the support of his players.
"We continually support him so we've got his back,'' Schaub said. "We're all in this together. We're going to have his back until the end. We're going to fight through this thing. We have the utmost confidence in him and he in us and we're just going to continue down that road.''
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Receiver Andre Johnson, who's been with the Texans since 2003, said people outside of the organization don't realize what a mess things were when Kubiak took over and how much he's done to improve the franchise. He's turned an offense that was once known for little more than Carr's repeated sacks into one of the top units in the league.
"I think he's changed the attitude of the team because he's been on teams where they've won Super Bowls and things like that so he knows what it takes,'' Johnson said. "He's just as frustrated as everybody else. He knows that we have the talent to go out and do things and get things accomplished, but it's just not happening.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ritethru.0902/
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I'm not necessarily a big fan of Kubiaks retention, but to answer your question apparently some of the teams key players are.
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:19 PM
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Quarterback Matt Schaub insists Kubiak still has the support of his players.
"We continually support him so we've got his back,'' Schaub said. "We're all in this together. We're going to have his back until the end. We're going to fight through this thing. We have the utmost confidence in him and he in us and we're just going to continue down that road.''
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Receiver Andre Johnson, who's been with the Texans since 2003, said people outside of the organization don't realize what a mess things were when Kubiak took over and how much he's done to improve the franchise. He's turned an offense that was once known for little more than Carr's repeated sacks into one of the top units in the league."I think he's changed the attitude of the team because he's been on teams where they've won Super Bowls and things like that so he knows what it takes,'' Johnson said. "He's just as frustrated as everybody else. He knows that we have the talent to go out and do things and get things accomplished, but it's just not happening.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ritethru.0902/
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I'm not necessarily a big fan of Kubiaks retention, but to answer your question apparently some of the teams key players are.
Kubiak brought Schaub here of course hes going to say that.


Here are some more quotes from Johnson to chew on.

“There are times they do things that have me scratching my head,” Johnson said. “I can't lie about that. I mean, really scratching my head.”

“There are times I am sitting around wondering if it is ever going to happen here.

“Do I have to go to another team for it to happen?”

Of course he also says in that article he doesnt want to go anywhere else "right now" so take it how you want it.

McNair needs to go all out and try and get Cowher in here NOW. Kubiak hasnt improved as a head coach in any aspect since he got here. Hes just not ready for a head job right now. He has had four years to improve. I dont see what he has done in that time that makes people think he is even close to figuring it out. Hes a great guy and some day he'll PROBABLY be a good head coach but lets not piss away our top players prime years HOPING he all the sudden becomes a real HC here. Let him get his on the job training somewhere else and lets get a leader thats been there and done that.
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:49 AM
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Ok, it's been frustrating because we started out with high expectations.

Our offense is overall ranked 8th, and defense overall ranked 13th now, so they are moving up as season progresses.

Lots of young talent and coaches on the team and several significant injuries.

Plus, many heartbreaking, could of won losses, in position to win, just a missed field goal, fumble, interception away, so seems the can't do it analysis really is not accurate.

Stability on a team is one of key factors to winning, so keep the stabiltiy.

Also, I think if you are listening to AJ, he wants to stay and we shouldn't try to talk him into leaving please, we need to keep AJ.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:36 PM
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Why, Capers couldn't even get us to 8-8?
Precisely. He did get us to 7-9 before he fell off the wagon. People forget that we had set ourselves up for a nice future after the first three seasons then it all went to hell in the fourth one.

There are some things I don't like about Kubiak and I think, like Shanahan, that he doesn't have a clue how to run a defense and gets too cute on offense. I'd love me some smashmouth up front but we just never get the blockers to make it work. Don't know how you fix that when you focus on the d-line every year.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:47 AM
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I don't know how to answer those questions. I just know that I look at Denver, and see how quickly they rebounded after getting a fresh new coach. I yearn for that in Houston, as I have done for lo these many years.
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