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Old 10-27-2009, 08:02 PM
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That kid is a stud, IMO he is a better player at this point in his career (he's a junior) than Demeco was as as junior.

And I like Mark Ingram 5-10 215 RB Bama Sophomore,

and if you do not like Johnson, use Mike Iupati, G, Idaho or John Jerry, G, Ole Miss .
Or go Nate Allen, FS, South Florida or Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
Ingram is an absolute stud also. Love watching Bama just because of those two. McClain reminds me of Jack Lambert.

Sergio Render is the one Im hoping for as far as interior line goes.

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Old 10-31-2009, 09:15 PM
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October 31 mock. 7 rounder SR. Jr. using Draft tek ranking as a rough guide.

#20 *Joe Haden,CB/KR 5-10, 190, Florida
#52 Brandon Ghee, CB 5-11, 195, Wake Forest
#84 *Morgan Burnett, SS/FS 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
116 Jordan Lake, SS/FS 6-1, 210, Baylor
129 Motario Hardesty, RB 5-11, 215, Tenn compensatory pick for Dunta Robinson
150 Roddrick Muckeloy, OLB 6-1, 240, Texas
182 Sergio Render, OG 6-3, 325, Virginia Tech
185 Boo Robinson, DT 6-2, 325, Wake Forest Completion of Travis Johnson trade
214 *John Clay, RB 6-2, 247, Wisconsin

Thank we would finally have depth in the secondary?
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:19 PM
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October 31 mock. 7 rounder SR. Jr. using Draft tek ranking as a rough guide.

#20 *Joe Haden,CB/KR 5-10, 190, Florida
#52 Brandon Ghee, CB 5-11, 195, Wake Forest
#84 *Morgan Burnett, SS/FS 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
116 Jordan Lake, SS/FS 6-1, 210, Baylor
129 Motario Hardesty, RB 5-11, 215, Tenn compensatory pick for Dunta Robinson
150 Roddrick Muckeloy, OLB 6-1, 240, Texas
182 Sergio Render, OG 6-3, 325, Virginia Tech
185 Boo Robinson, DT 6-2, 325, Wake Forest Completion of Travis Johnson trade
214 *John Clay, RB 6-2, 247, Wisconsin

Thank we would finally have depth in the secondary?
Wow, I'd be very surprised to see that draft.
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Old 11-01-2009, 01:12 AM
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Wow, I'd be very surprised to see that draft.
Draft tek's ranking are way out of reality. They tighten up as we get later in the draft process. But currently having Burnett available in the mid 3rd is unlikely. Render and Boo Robinson in the 6th round, OK. So I cherry picked some studs that will help this team in round.

But wouldn't it be cool to have our entire secondary solidified in one draft? I could have gone the other way and taken lineman only. Buffalo is going through that growth process now.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:25 AM
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I may get flamed but what about the thought of drafting Tebow in round 2 (if available). My thinking is he could do all the short yardage stuff, learn behind Schaub, and get some Wild Cat looks, not to mention he is about as high character as you can get and unlike Carr I think he has the passion necessary to succeed. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:03 PM
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The way the team seems to be maturing, depth stepping up when given opportunities, this may be a trade down and take best guy available draft. I dont know, but I agree getting solid CB and Safety for sure would be nice. I doubt that would be first four picks, two of first four more likely, but who knows. I think we are ok now at CB and Safety, but upgradeable for sure.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:01 PM
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The way the team seems to be maturing, depth stepping up when given opportunities, this may be a trade down and take best guy available draft. I dont know, but I agree getting solid CB and Safety for sure would be nice. I doubt that would be first four picks, two of first four more likely, but who knows. I think we are ok now at CB and Safety, but upgradeable for sure.
Think about it though, Reeves, Quinn, Molden, Bennett, McCain with Haden and Ghee, Plus Burnett and Lake behind Pollard and Barber at safety.

That is not a bad secondary, now it would be young and it will have issues with growth, but a solid top to bottom group. BTW Molden and Bennett might not make that group.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:20 PM
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Think about it though, Reeves, Quinn, Molden, Bennett, McCain with Haden and Ghee, Plus Burnett and Lake behind Pollard and Barber at safety.

That is not a bad secondary, now it would be young and it will have issues with growth, but a solid top to bottom group. BTW Molden and Bennett might not make that group.
If we draft any players for the Secondary, I would like a resume that contains many collegiate interceptions. The one thing this defense really needs are players who can take the ball away.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:49 PM
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If we draft any players for the Secondary, I would like a resume that contains many collegiate interceptions. The one thing this defense really needs are players who can take the ball away.
That would take Ghee out, and Haden would is below average as a hawk.

Highest Senior on the List Robert Johnson Utah CB Senior
Highest Junior on the list DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S

Future stars to watch (2011) Rahim Moore UCLA S Soph
Tyler Sash Iowa Hawkeyes CB Soph.
Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.
Thomas could leave for the draft this year because he redshirted his freshman year...He probably needs another year of seasoning at Texas, and Mack's been pretty good at not having guys leave early, but if he keeps playing at a high level it might be hard for him not to come out...especially if Texas ends up national champions .
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:10 PM
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That would take Ghee out, and Haden would is below average as a hawk.

Highest Senior on the List Robert Johnson Utah CB Senior
Highest Junior on the list DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S

Future stars to watch (2011) Rahim Moore UCLA S Soph
Tyler Sash Iowa Hawkeyes CB Soph.
Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.
Ok, put me down for Robert Johnson.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:00 AM
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SS Klint Kubiak, 5-11, 200, Colorado State (XO)

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Old 11-05-2009, 03:03 PM
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Molden has been a big dissapointment. He can't stay off the training table. Bennet just has not developed the way the team imagined he would. Secondary needs to be the primary area of focus. After that maybe offensive guards, and as always Dline.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:48 PM
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Okay, I clicked on the initial link for the first time and these guys are nuts.

Browns select Colt McCoy with the overall #2 pick? While they have Anderson and Quinn already? That's stupid. First, McCoy's not worth a pick that high (low-1st, early 2nd at best) but then to put him on a team where QB isn't the glaring need. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Then they show Tim Tebow going #9 to the Redskins. Granted, the Redskins may be that stupid but Tebow ought to be a 4th or 5th rounder. No way he does the same crap he does at Florida unless you're running the Wildcat as your base offense. He isn't the passer to be a quality NFL starter.

I was too busy laughing to see who anyone else picked.

I do agree, however, that Suh will probably be the overall #1 no matter who gets the pick.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:41 AM
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My hopefulls for round 1 through 3.

1st rpund Rolando McLain LB Alabama
2nd round Selvish Capers OT West Virginia
3rd round Trevard Lyndley CB Kentucky
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:28 PM
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Oh, I don't know, but Tebow could easily turn out to be a Rothlesburger clone in the NFL. One thing is for sure, he is a very strong leader. No way he goes past the first round IMHO.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:36 AM
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http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
has juniors and seniors

16 Joe Haden* CB 5'11" 228 Florida
48 Jeff Owens DT 6'3" 300 Georgia
80 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
112 Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
144 Chris Todd QB 6'4" 210 Auburn
152 Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State
176 Barry Humphries OG 6'3" 295 Clemson
208 Riley Cooper WR 6'3" 215 Florida

OK draft until round 5.

MY cherry pick
16 Dez Bryant* WR 6'2" 210 Oklahoma State BPA
48 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Kellen Heard DT 6'6" 330 Texas A&M
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Mitch Petrus OG 6'5" 288 Arkansas
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:19 PM
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MY cherry pick
16 Dez Bryant* WR 6'2" 210 Oklahoma State BPA
48 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Kellen Heard DT 6'6" 330 Texas A&M
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Mitch Petrus OG 6'5" 288 Arkansas
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee
Lets try this again

16 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford
48 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke
80 80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Gerhart will give you a beast at RB. Oghobaase and Williams add size to the DTs. Render and Doering might not start their 1st year but they will in a year or two, and they have lot more upside than Studdard. Add Caldwell at OC and that should be a stud OL.

Dixon because you never have enough RBs.

I know, no safeties early and no CBs. I need size up the middle and the best way to do that is draft it.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:34 PM
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Yep, right today, that sounds like what the doctor ordered.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:05 AM
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Draft Tek 12/8/09
But this time I trade down. They have us drafting #9, and nobody worth while to pick for at least 10 picks. IMO

I trade our #9 and next years #1 to NE for #21, 46, 52, 53

#21 Joe Haden, CB, 5-10, 190 , 4.40, Florida
#41 Dan Williams, NT, 6-2, 325, 5.25, Tennessee
#46 Jon Asamoah, OG, 6-4, 315, 5.10, Illinois
#52 *Evan Royster, RB, 6-0, 210, 4.45, Penn State
#53 *Kareem Jackson, CB, 5-10, 192, 4.45, Alabama
#72 *Ras-I-Dowling, DB, 6-1, 200, 4.40, Virginia
#104 Mitch Pretus, OG, 6-3, 315, 5.10, Arkansas
#136 Ben Tate, RB, 5-10, 220, 4.45, Auburn
#168 Lamarr Houston, DT, 6-2, 300, 5.10, Texas
#182 Darryl Sharpton, ILB, 5-11, 235, 4.65, Miami
#200 Jonathan Crompton, QB, 6-3, 230, Tennessee

OL Brown 313, Asamoah 315, Caldwell 312, Pretus 315, Winston 315

DE Smith, Williams, Robinson, Williams
CB - Haden, Quinn, nickle Jackson, dime McCain, Reeves, Bennett
S - Pollard, Dowling, Barber, Nolan

RBs Royster, Slaton, Tate
FB/HB/TE Casey
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