The upcoming Oakland game

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I personally think the Raiders are going to win. I just have this feeling.

Well dadgum, have you completely thrown in the towel PK? We DO need to be ready though, because they will have every bad tendency of ours programmed, so Bush needs to drill the heck out of his guys to stay in their gaps and not freelance too much. Memo to Schaub - Dare I mention this, Oakland has another Ryan coached defense!! I hope you are ready for this one.

I will say Texans - 31
Oakland - 28 in a close one!

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

Well dadgum, have you completely thrown in the towel PK? We DO need to be ready though, because they will have every bad tendency of ours programmed, so Bush needs to drill the heck out of his guys to stay in their gaps and not freelance too much. Memo to Schaub - Dare I mention this, Oakland has another Ryan coached defense!! I hope you are ready for this one.

I will say Texans - 31
Oakland - 28 in a close one!

No, but I am close. If they loose to Oakland then I might be done with Kubiak / Smith.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by painekiller

No, but I am close. If they loose to Oakland then I might be done with Kubiak / Smith.

I can go further and say I will be done. Simply put, in today's NFL, it doesn't take 4 years to know what you have in a coach. You generally know almost immediately (see Ryan, Rex; Singletary, Mike; etc.). I've also basically rejected the idea of a "learning curve" for your head coach. While I might be willing to excuse a couple of mistakes in the first year, after that, it's not a "learning curve," it's simply who you are and most likely, who you will continue to be. It boggles the mind that people still give Kubiak a pass in year 4 because of this purported "learning curve." That's absolute nonsense. This is who he is. Finally, as an aside, I seem to recall reading somewhere that Kubiak is already one of the more senior head coaches in the NFL now.

[coloradodude]

Originally Posted by Joshua

I can go further and say I will be done. Simply put, in today's NFL, it doesn't take 4 years to know what you have in a coach. You generally know almost immediately (see Ryan, Rex; Singletary, Mike; etc.). I've also basically rejected the idea of a "learning curve" for your head coach. While I might be willing to excuse a couple of mistakes in the first year, after that, it's not a "learning curve," it's simply who you are and most likely, who you will continue to be. It boggles the mind that people still give Kubiak a pass in year 4 because of this purported "learning curve." That's absolute nonsense. This is who he is. Finally, as an aside, I seem to recall reading somewhere that Kubiak is already one of the more senior head coaches in the NFL now.

I agree completely w/this post.

On a side note, our defense has a whopping 2 sacks. Two.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Joshua

I can go further and say I will be done. Simply put, in today's NFL, it doesn't take 4 years to know what you have in a coach. You generally know almost immediately (see Ryan, Rex; Singletary, Mike; etc.). I've also basically rejected the idea of a "learning curve" for your head coach. While I might be willing to excuse a couple of mistakes in the first year, after that, it's not a "learning curve," it's simply who you are and most likely, who you will continue to be. It boggles the mind that people still give Kubiak a pass in year 4 because of this purported "learning curve." That's absolute nonsense. This is who he is. Finally, as an aside, I seem to recall reading somewhere that Kubiak is already one of the more senior head coaches in the NFL now.

While Rex Ryan and Mike Singletary are good examples for immediate success and instant gratification, it will be interesting to check back after 4 years with those two and see if they are able to maintain the pace.

Kubiak is showing a pace similar to Jeff Fisher. Fisher's stats are almost identical to Kubiak's first years. Tossing out Fisher's first year, the interim year of 1994 (1-5), his W-L looks like this:

1995 HOO 7 - 9
1996 HOO 8 - 8
1997 TNO 8 - 8
1998 TNO 8 - 8

Kubiak has gone:

2006 HOU 6 - 10
2007 HOU 8 - 8
2008 HOU 8 - 8
2009 HOU 1 - 2

Not until Fisher's 5th full year, did he bust out with a 13-3

Jeff Fisher cont.:

1999 TEN 13 - 3
2000 TEN 13 - 3
2001 TEN 7 - 9
2002 TEN 11 - 5
2003 TEN 12 - 4
2004 TEN 5 - 11
2005 TEN 4 - 12
2006 TEN 8 - 8
2007 TEN 10 - 6
2008 TEN 13 - 3

Good thing they didn't fire Fisher after his 4th year cause he went to the SuperBowl in his 5th (1999). Also, note the slump years. Happens to the best of 'em. Even Cowher had some slump years. Belichick and Dungy are about the only coaches I can think of in recent years to string together some impressive 5-7 year runs.... They both worked for I think what most people think of as top rate organizations.... I think the Texans are a top rate organization, they just don't have the wins, yet....

It's interesting that just a few years ago, most Texan fans (myself included) would have died for an 8-8 season. Now? No sir, just not good enough. We want the playoffs and we want them now! Right now!

Now, this doesn't mean Kubiak is going to the SuperBowl next year but it does show that there is a precedent. This would be a really bad year for Kubiak to have a slump year. Despite what the Chron told us, this team still has holes and they are "loudest" on defense. I think another .500 season would kind of suck but I wouldn't be screaming for anybody's head to roll because of it. But that's just me. I haven't seen Kubiak miss any tackles or assignments. Perhaps it is his fault for not recognizing he's got a bunch of *******s who can't execute on the field..... Just my 2 cents on this.....

[NBT]

I have expounded at length on the state of the team so I won't belabor it. The one who has to make the decision on Kubiak's future resides in the owner's box. Look at how many years we railed at the boneheaded decisions of Bud Adams with our Oilers. I think Fisher would have won sooner had Adams not interferred in football decisions. McNair is smarter than Adams, but he is distracted by his other business affairs. He would do better by hiring someone like "The Big Tuna" to head up the whole organization, then we could be assured we would be getting his full attention. But alas there is no Parcells out there right now.

[sinnister]

Originally Posted by NBT

I have expounded at length on the state of the team so I won't belabor it. The one who has to make the decision on Kubiak's future resides in the owner's box. Look at how many years we railed at the boneheaded decisions of Bud Adams with our Oilers. I think Fisher would have won sooner had Adams not interferred in football decisions. McNair is smarter than Adams, but he is distracted by his other business affairs. He would do better by hiring someone like "The Big Tuna" to head up the whole organization, then we could be assured we would be getting his full attention. But alas there is no Parcells out there right now.

If you look at Parcells record after Bellichek left, it's not nearly as impressive as when Bellichek was his D cordinator. Also, I am not sure about him as a GM. Bill Polian is a great GM.

[EndZoneSeats]

Originally Posted by painekiller

No, but I am close. If they loose to Oakland then I might be done with Kubiak / Smith.

I'll be done with Kubiak. Not so with Schaub. He's the fourth-ranked passer in terms of efficiency in the NFL. He's a guy we could win with if our defense could put forth a reasonable effort.

[nunusguy]

Jacques Reeves didn't even get through warmups today at practice. He injured his hand and was taken off to be examined.
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Based on Gary Kubiak's comments, Brice McCain could start at cornerback instead of Fred Bennett and Bernard Pollard could get John Busing's playing time.
He also said practice squad D-linemen Jesse Nading and Tim Jamison will be evaluated in practice and could end up on the active roster for Sunday's game against the Raiders.
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice...s_back_to.html
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Nading and Jamison are both DEs so who might be out ? My guess would be Barwin for one because he went off of the radar once they started playing for real in September.

[Nconroe]

Well, we'll have the worst offense in Oakland against worst defense with Texans, atleast so far this year. Hopefully our defense will start to improve now and our offense will continue its more or less good play, ie new coalches and players will get their act together. I hope Reeves and Pollard can help the defense as well in the secondary. If we can play consistent, avoid the turnovers and stupid penalties likely will win.

[Fonz the Boss]

Will Demps... we need you. Are you still in the waiver wire?

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

No, but I am close. If they loose to Oakland then I might be done with Kubiak / Smith.

Dang! Hang in there man. I don't know if I can handle starting over again for the 3rd time in this franchise's short history.

STOP the long 3rd down completions (and runs) !!!

[Big Texas]

Originally Posted by NBT

Dang! Hang in there man. I don't know if I can handle starting over again for the 3rd time in this franchise's short history.

STOP the long 3rd down completions (and runs) !!!

These are the only things that have kept us from being 3-0, if not 2-1.

However, the fact that we have so much potential is what is so bad. We could easily be a playoff team. Especially with the way our offense is looking. Kevin Walter was a man on a mission Sunday. I hope to see more of that against the Raiders.

P.S. I think we should start to use the pass to set up the run. Forget this run the ball down their throats crap. Our O-Line just cannot get it done. Get these guys to start respecting the pass, and then throw them off guard with your explosive back.

There is no reason our Offense shouldn't look like New Orleans.