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Old 09-20-2009, 06:48 PM
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You can't blame Slaton for anything except the fumbles (bad enough). The Oline are not getting him any running room.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:23 PM
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Great win, not perfect by any means but they showed heart and won.

Does anyone think the league will be looking at the tape of the side line brawl? It looked like Jacoby and Mario were throwing punches, I hope the Texans don't wind up with any suspensions.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:52 AM
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the defense was horrible. they did get the job done at the end, but bush is looking like he is overmatched and out of his league as the dc. consistenetly giving up 3rd and longs and the breakdowns on the big plays are unacceptable.

glad they got the win, and it was one of the best games i have ever seen, but this game was won by the offense, and in spite of the defense.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:12 AM
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the defense was horrible. they did get the job done at the end, but bush is looking like he is overmatched and out of his league as the dc. consistenetly giving up 3rd and longs and the breakdowns on the big plays are unacceptable.

glad they got the win, and it was one of the best games i have ever seen, but this game was won by the offense, and in spite of the defense.
I don't think anyone said we won because of the defense but they DID contribute to the win.

All those third and long plays that the Titans were converting were all in the first half if I believe. The defense did a number on the Titans in the 2nd half. Now that blown play for Chris Johnson was the only trip to the endzone for the titans after halftime.
So, that was not a good thing but its part of the game. the other guy is trying to his job too and if you have one player out of position, big plays like that happen. The had 3 total plays over 20 yards, we had 6.

Did the defense blow up on a couple of plays, you bet they did.

Did they adjust and remove some of the players causing the breakdowns in the 2nd half? Yes they did.

We still have a long way to go but I like the more aggressive nature of our defense. Although I do not like the big plays we give up occasionally but that has to be expected as a by product of our newer, aggressive style of play.

All that being said, the defense has plenty to work on.

This win is primarily due to the offense and a great win it was.

A must win IMO.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:58 AM
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I don't think anyone said we won because of the defense but they DID contribute to the win.

All those third and long plays that the Titans were converting were all in the first half if I believe. The defense did a number on the Titans in the 2nd half. Now that blown play for Chris Johnson was the only trip to the endzone for the titans after halftime.
So, that was not a good thing but its part of the game. the other guy is trying to his job too and if you have one player out of position, big plays like that happen. The had 3 total plays over 20 yards, we had 6.

Did the defense blow up on a couple of plays, you bet they did.

Did they adjust and remove some of the players causing the breakdowns in the 2nd half? Yes they did.

We still have a long way to go but I like the more aggressive nature of our defense. Although I do not like the big plays we give up occasionally but that has to be expected as a by product of our newer, aggressive style of play.

All that being said, the defense has plenty to work on.

This win is primarily due to the offense and a great win it was.

A must win IMO.
I am all for a more agressive playing style, and yes, you will give up some big plays when you take risks, but to give up 3 like they did in one game is too many, especially the 91 yarder in the second half. I agree they did adjust and play much better in the second half after the one breakdown, which is why i said they got the job done in the end, but you can't give up 31 points and expect to win consistently. Agree on it being a must win.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:54 AM
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You can't blame Slaton for anything except the fumbles (bad enough). The Oline are not getting him any running room.
Chris Brown has put up a considerably higher YPC than Slaton has in both games so far. We have been going against tough run defenses thus far, and our o-line has struggled to create running room, but that's not to say Slaton hasn't had his own struggles as well; he's been considerably outperformed by his counterpart in both games this season.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:20 AM
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Chris Brown has put up a considerably higher YPC than Slaton has in both games so far. We have been going against tough run defenses thus far, and our o-line has struggled to create running room, but that's not to say Slaton hasn't had his own struggles as well; he's been considerably outperformed by his counterpart in both games this season.
No argument there. We have faced two very good run stuffing defenses, but other opponents will see that and start gameplanning harder against the run. I'm just saying the Oline has not jelled yet.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:25 AM
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We are playing with two rooks on defense, Cushing and Glover Quin. At least Kubiak is honest when he says we have not reached the level of consistancy that he would like to see. All of us hope we continue to become more consistant.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:00 PM
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I will say this one more time about our offense, we need to Pass to set up the run. Utilizing Slaton on screens and check downs is more effective than handing the ball off to him because of our O-Line. Having Chester Pitts out of action is going to make a bad running attack worse. I know we love to use play-action to buy time and get deep, and we can still do that from time to time. However, if we want to keep the chains moving - the I-Formation hasn't been doin much to that end.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:18 PM
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Well I hope they get off their high horses quick because the defense stunk. We got another one of the top RBs in the league next week in Maurice Jones Drew to worry about. I know I dont want him slashing and dashing through our defense like a JV game.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:43 PM
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I'm holding out hope the defense we saw in the second half is a sign of things to come. Except for that ridiculous TD run by Johnson to start the half, where inexplicably no one was within 10 yards of the middle of the field, they played pretty well and shut the Titans down that half. The pass play to Johnson in the first half was clearly a busted assignment. However, there's no excuse for it and I agree the D and Bush need to show improvement. The O - and the usual Collins bonehead play of the day - saved their ass yesterday.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:28 PM
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Well I hope they get off their high horses quick because the defense stunk. We got another one of the top RBs in the league next week in Maurice Jones Drew to worry about. I know I dont want him slashing and dashing through our defense like a JV game.
High Horse? Everything I heard said that nobody on the team was celebrating this win. Kubiak supposedly wouldn't even break a smile with the media after.

Definitely no high horse here. Just a win in a league that doesn't care about syle points either way.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:49 PM
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I will say this one more time about our offense, we need to Pass to set up the run. Utilizing Slaton on screens and check downs is more effective than handing the ball off to him because of our O-Line. Having Chester Pitts out of action is going to make a bad running attack worse. I know we love to use play-action to buy time and get deep, and we can still do that from time to time. However, if we want to keep the chains moving - the I-Formation hasn't been doin much to that end.
I have been all for screen plays with Slaton. Especially that first game when the Jets were blitzing with no remorse. But our execution was terrible. I went back and watched that game and it looked as though we had not even been working on screen plays.

As a matter of fact it was Pitts who looked bad, when he pulled for the screen. He not only let his man come free without so much as a chip block but he ran into Duane which led Bart Scott to have a free hit on Slaton.

If we want our run game to be more effective we are gonna have to show that we are an elite passing team. We must keep defenses honest. Especially after Slaton's 3 fumbles.
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