Official Texans @ Buccaneers Game Thread, 9/05/2009

[HPF Bob]

INT takes it to the doorstep and Andre Hall pole vaults over the goal line.

[Arky]

Texans kickoff. Bucs bring it out to the 20.

Bucs moving the ball down the field..... Deltha O'Neal with the daily double (penalties) - presently at the Texans 15.

Josh Johnson scrambles for positive yardage.

Ball at the Texan 5.

Okam with nice TFL. Ball at the 6.

Johnson scrambles to the 1. 3rd down.

Bucs offsides -5.

Tip almost INT'ed by Harrison.

Bucs kick the FG.

Texans 24, Bucs 13

[Arky]

Bucs kickoff. Jenkins brings it back to the 17.

Grossman still in.

Pass to Martinez good for 7.

Hall rushes for the 1st down.

Grossman hits Martinez over the middle for about 25 (?) yds.

Hall for nice gainer about 8 or 9.

Hall for the 1st down. Ball at the Buc 34.

Grossman's ball just out of JJ's reach in the endzone.

Deep sideline pass to JJ inc. 3rd and 10.

Short pass to Casey comes up a couple of yards short of the 1st down.

45 yd attempt by K Brown is good.

Texans 27, Bucs 13.

[Arky]

Texans kick off. Bucs return it to the 21.

Barwin hits Johnson as he passes. Initial ruling, Leonard (Hawaii) INT.

Challenge on the play.....

INT overruled. Still Bucs ball, 2nd and 10.

Johnson scrambles for a 1st down.

[HPF Bob]

Great play by Barwin anyway but you knew it would be overturned. Guys in the booth were yelling for the Texans to hurry up and snap the ball.

[Arky]

Bucs have a 4th down coming up and elect to punt.

Fair caught by Jenkins at the 12 - Texans ball.

Foster for a couple.

Foster for about 5. 3rd and 3

End of 3rd qtr.

[Arky]

Foster comes up short on 3rd down so the Texans to punt.

Buc receiver muffs the punt - Busing recovers, Texans ball!

[Arky]

Texans moving the ball. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Hall gets stopped for no gain. 4th and 1.

Texans go for it. Grossman's pass is batted down.

Bucs ball.

[chuck]

The naked boot on fourth down is fking idiotic. The sooner Shanahan realizes this the better. Maybe it's starting to dawn on him. I hate that play in that situation and hate what it says about the attitude of the offense.

Barwin looks like a world-beater against the scrubs, especially when he doesn't have to care at all about the run. He has a LOT of work to do but boy is he active. His athleticism is going to cause problems for a lot of tackles.

[Arky]

Bucs moving the ball. Near midfield.

Bucs rush for 10 yds. Verdell hurt on the play.

Bucs presently at the Texan 14.

Johnson floats in a pass for the score.

Texans 27, Bucs 20.

[WMH]

Against scrubs or not.....Rex needs to be the #2.....Period. If Kubes wants to develop Orvlosky, fine, but Rex is much better suited for what we need.

[HPF Bob]

We play the Bucs in Tampa seemingly ever preseason and I don't think we've ever beaten them. Now Grossman hooks up with Jacoby Jones. Two guys fighting for their NFL lives.

[Arky]

Bucs kickoff and Jenkins brings it out to the 27.

Grossman's pass to JJ good for about 40 yards.

Holding on Texans - 2nd and 20.

Pass to Jenkins good for about 10.

Grossman's 3rd down pass goes inc.

Texans to punt. 5:14 left in the game.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by WMH

Against scrubs or not.....Rex needs to be the #2.....Period. If Kubes wants to develop Orvlosky, fine, but Rex is much better suited for what we need.

Orlovsky's making six million and Grossman's making six hundred thousand. Orlovsky's #2, period.

I agree with you, though. When Schaub inevitably gets hurt based on what I've seen I'd bring in an experienced Grossman rather than an experiment in Orlovsky in a heartbeat.

[Arky]

Bucs ball at their own 11.

1st down pass good for 10.

Short pass over the middle good for another 1st down.

Ball at the Buc 35.

Bucs rollin' - another pass complete over the middle in Texans territory. Ball at the Texan 35.

Pass complete to the 20 yd. line.

2:12 left in the game.

Johnson scrambles to the 10.

Jameel Cook (!) to the 4.

[HPF Bob]

We pull it out at the end! Texans win!

[Arky]

Pass goes inc. - 3rd and goal.

Good defense by Richardson on the pass - 4th and goal.

Johnson nowhere to go - Campbell/Okam trap him for the sack.

Texans ball at the 7.

Foster for 3.

Foster for about 5.

Texans kneel it out.

Final score:

Texans 27, Bucs 20.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by chuck

Orlovsky's making six million and Grossman's making six hundred thousand. Orlovsky's #2, period.

I agree with you, though. When Schaub inevitably gets hurt based on what I've seen I'd bring in an experienced Grossman rather than an experiment in Orlovsky in a heartbeat.

Yep, there is that....I said needs to be, not was going to be. However, I am not 100% sure that Kubes will let a couple of mill get in the way of what he wants/needs to get done though, especially since its his a$$ on the line, not his money. If Orvlosky does begin the season as the #2 on the chart, I would bet money that he has a very short leash with Grossman on the pine. IMO.

My vote, even though it doesn't amount to much, is give the #2 spot to Rex, keep Orvlosky around, and let him develop to be the #2 next year. Rex plays well when/if Schaub goes down, he is long gone in 2010.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by WMH

Yep, there is that....I said needs to be, not was going to be. However, I am not 100% sure that Kubes will let a couple of mill get in the way of what he wants/needs to get done though, especially since its his a$$ on the line, not his money. If Orvlosky does begin the season as the #2 on the chart, I would bet money that he has a very short leash with Grossman on the pine. IMO.

My vote, even though it doesn't amount to much, is give the #2 spot to Rex, keep Orvlosky around, and let him develop to be the #2 next year. Rex plays well when/if Schaub goes down, he is long gone in 2010.

There will be 3 QBs IMO and while Rex may be listed as the 3rd, if we are close to the play offs he will likely be in. It REALLY doesn't matter who is listed as #2 or 3. Dan O is the MUCH better prospect and may wind up being a real find. However, Rex may wind up being more valuable short term. The thing that scares me about Rex is his Jeckle & Hyde play.

[nunusguy]

I dunno why do people keep talking about DanO as a guy who's new to the league with a lot of potential who requires patience and care to develope ?
It's not like he's a rookie or even a 2nd or third year player, this is now his 5th year in the NFL.
On the other hand Grossman at 29 is on the right side of 30, and of course many QBs don't have their most productive years until they are well into their
30s. And he's just a year older than Schaub.