Quinn Gray

[KJ3]

i just wonder what the deal was on draft day...

[jaimeg]

Originally Posted by KJ3

i just wonder what the deal was on draft day...

The 80 man limit may mean that there will be some players available from other teams that may be worth a look. The Texans may be positioning themselves.

[kravix]

They still have 3-4 more cuts to make just to get to the 80, although this is taking into consideration all unsigned rookies signing by TC.

KJ3 I dont think that Gray would slack off just because he was set at 3 and fighting for a 2. You dont make it in the NFL with that mentality. Especially not a QB.

I am with you about the "fit" comment though. That would be some piss poor scouting IMO. Especially since they had plenty of NFL tape on the guy.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by jaimeg

The 80 man limit may mean that there will be some players available from other teams that may be worth a look. The Texans may be positioning themselves.

ah, quite possibly.

Originally Posted by kravix

KJ3 I dont think that Gray would slack off just because he was set at 3 and fighting for a 2. You dont make it in the NFL with that mentality. Especially not a QB.

I am with you about the "fit" comment though. That would be some piss poor scouting IMO. Especially since they had plenty of NFL tape on the guy.

i think you're talking to keith but i agree with you.

[NBT]

I think a lot of teams are having trouble adjusting to that 80 man roster limit going into training camp.

[HPF Bob]

This is shocking. A lot doesn't add up here. The most compelling scenario is that Quinn was told he'd be the backup as soon as they traded Sage. But then they didn't trade Sage. So either a) Gray made himself look bad so he could get cut b) went to the Texans and demanded to be let out of his contract or c) the Texans saw no need to pay him that sort of coin to be the third-stringer and the "fit" they are referring to is their salary structure, not his on-field abilities.

There is one way it makes sense. I've often wondered whether Jacksonville's offense just isn't very sophisticated and perhaps Gray was overwhelmed by the playbook when he got here and just couldn't adjust to it. J-Ville's playbook has often struck me as being rather basic and they just expect the talent to make it work. It might explain why they have so many players who don't live up to their potential (see their #1 receivers) while others come from nowhere and play great.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

There is one way it makes sense. I've often wondered whether Jacksonville's offense just isn't very sophisticated and perhaps Gray was overwhelmed by the playbook when he got here and just couldn't adjust to it. J-Ville's playbook has often struck me as being rather basic and they just expect the talent to make it work. It might explain why they have so many players who don't live up to their potential (see their #1 receivers) while others come from nowhere and play great.

I thought he signed for veteran minimum? #3 type money, not even close to #2 money. But I've been wrong before...

[papabear]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

\I've often wondered whether Jacksonville's offense just isn't very sophisticated and perhaps Gray was overwhelmed by the playbook when he got here and just couldn't adjust to it. J-Ville's playbook has often struck me as being rather basic and they just expect the talent to make it work. It might explain why they have so many players who don't live up to their potential (see their #1 receivers) while others come from nowhere and play great.

That's an interesting theory. J-ville has always seemed to me a pretty basic offene in the sense that they wanted to run the ball, run it some more, and then run it again. I don't know that I have ever really paid attention to the sophistication of their passing game. I've always attributed it to just bad picks at the WR spot. Let's face it Matt Jones wasn't the safest pick in the book. It does make sense that they have a fairly basic passing attack. A helathy Fred Taylor and Jones-Drew can definitely open up the passing game.

Much like anything else I'm sure it was a combination of things. I still think that high on the list was the idea of trading Rosey not working out, next was probably an unhappy Grey. He went into this offseason thinking that he would have the chance to possibly compete for a starting gig. When that didn't happen, and he couldn't even lock down a relatively lucrative backup spot, I have to think the decision for Houston was made because he assumed he would be the de facto back up once Rosey was traded.....and playing behind a guy who had problems staying on the field last year. Guys like Boyd and Brink are cheaper, but in the grand scheme of things Gray wasn't expensive...I'm sure that played a part, but if I was to take a guess I would say that was down towards the bottom of the list.

You do have me thinking about what type of offense is j-ville really running....there must be a reason someone who was as succesfull as Gray was filling in last year didn't generate more interest. Robb Johnson and our own Matt Schaub come to mind as QB's who were able to turn a few standout games into huge deals/contracts....maybe you are on to something Bob.