Official 2009 NFL Draft Pre-Round 1 Thread

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by gunn

If he slides past Green Bay they may look to move above either New Orleans at 14 or San Diego at 16.

Its a situation that I thought could play very well into the Texans favor if things play out a certain way.

Just as long as they are interested in Jenkins and not Matthews.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Just as long as they are interested in Jenkins and not Matthews.

To be honest with you... I'm fine with it either way. I do like Matthews and what he would bring to the table, but I also like the thought of adding Everette Brown, Aaron Maybin or Robert Ayers too. All of which could be available at #23 depending on how it shakes out.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by gunn

To be honest with you... I'm fine with it either way. I do like Matthews and what he would bring to the table, but I also like the thought of adding Everette Brown, Aaron Maybin or Robert Ayers too. All of which could be available at #23 depending on how it shakes out.

I'd have a hard time trading down if Everette Brown is still on the board. I believe that I'd just have to take him and be done with it. I have seen the mocks that have him sliding down, but I am having a hard time believing it.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I'd have a hard time trading down if Everette Brown is still on the board. I believe that I'd just have to take him and be done with it. I have seen the mocks that have him sliding down, but I am having a hard time believing it.

I have been big on him from day one because of what I've seen of him in the games and it is hard to believe that he would slide due to that.... but if he can be had later and adding a 2nd round pick to boot, then I've got to go with the value there.

I also like Maybin and Ayers as well and would not be upset with either. I'm a build in the trenches guy so based where we are sitting with the 15th pick, inside out is good with me.... Unless Mark Sanchez is somewhere in reach.

[Roy P]

I could get behind Maybin, especially if we garnered an extra 3rd round pick. The latest buzz was that Maybin was sliding, so perhaps we could still get him at #24.

However, I'd be a little upset if we got Ayers in the 1st round. I started a thread a couple of months ago discussing the idea of Ayers as a 1st round pick, but after signing Antonio Smith, I see it as a duplication of effort. In my estimation, Ayers is a LDE who will have a difficult time generating pass rush. His value is in being better against the run than many of the hybrid DE/OLBs like Maybin.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I could get behind Maybin, especially if we garnered an extra 3rd round pick. The latest buzz was that Maybin was sliding, so perhaps we could still get him at #24.

However, I'd be a little upset if we got Ayers in the 1st round. I started a thread a couple of months ago discussing the idea of Ayers as a 1st round pick, but after signing Antonio Smith, I see it as a duplication of effort. In my estimation, Ayers is a LDE who will have a difficult time generating pass rush. His value is in being better against the run than many of the hybrid DE/OLBs like Maybin.

He's certainly a different player than Mayin. But what I like about him is the way he uses his hands when attacking. To me it is elite level hand use and leads me to believe that his best football is still to come. As for his position, I think they could slim him down a little and bring him along similar to the way the Giants brought along Mathias Kiwanuka as a OLB/DE hybrid.

[gunn]

Just heard Mayock say that he has Everette Brown as a second round guy.... he also mentioned using Ayers as the Giants use Justin Tuck.