3 Round Mock draft

[Roy P]

Well, If I were the GM and the coach kept T. P. on the bench while a lesser talent got all the playing time, I might start looking for a new coach.

I've talked about this before, but I am not sure how the relationship between Smith is vs. how it should be. I understand the two needing to work together to develop an identity and a philosophy. However, I buy into the Head Coach working for the GM model. Maybe it's my prior military service, but that's just the way I see it. My observations of Smith is that he takes a lot of input from Kubiak. I would imagine if Kubiak fails to make progress this season, then both would have to be shown the door. Smith would not be able to say, I wanted Kubiak to play better player than player X but he just wouldn't listen, so I passed on drafting/signing player Y.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

We'd probably never know we had a T.Polamalu because he'd be rinding the bench while some overpaid journeyman got the minutes.

That's the point.

And where do you think this is happening? You aren't attempting to describe the situation at safety I hope.

[Blitzwood]

All I'm saying is if we draft for example William Moore and Chip Vaughn in the 2nd and 3rd respectively, whose to say they're gonna get the nod over Wilson, Ferguson, Barber, Harrison, Molden, Bennett, Reeves, Williams, and Pittman. How many DB's do we really need to draft this year with so many guys already fighting for minutes.

[Nconroe]

I guess the thought is if you have 23rd ranked defense a few positions ought to be upgradeable from guys you had the year before, although tough for a rookie to beat out a good veteran for playing time. And you need 82 guys at start of camp, and about 30 don't make it. New coaches and a year more experience will help as well.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

You really think Patrick Chung has better coverage skills than Eugene Wilson?

OK you got me with that one, but Chung's overall game is much better at this point.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

1st round
1 Det QB Matt Stafford - 1
2 StL LT Eugene Monroe - 8
3 KC ILB Aaron Curry - 4
4 Sea LT Jason Smith - 2
5 Cle OLB Brian Orakpo - 13
6 Cinci DE Everette Brown - 43 Big Miss on my part
7 Oak DT BJ Raji - 9
8 Jax QB Mark Sanchez - 5 I had this right to begin with but moved him down.
9 GB OLB Aaron Maybin - 11
10 SF OT Michael Oher - 23 That was a bit high now looking back at it.
11 Buf DE Connor Barwin - 46 Yeah, I'm happy to be wrong about this pick.
12 Den CB Malcolm Jenkins - 14
13 Was OT Andre Smith - 6 Well, he didn't slip as much as I thought.
14 NO CB Vontae Davis - 25 Could be great could flop.
15 Hou OLB Clay Matthews - 26 I drank the kool aid. I knew not to listen to John McClain.
16 SD ILB Rey Maualuga - 38 I still believe the Chargers blew this one.
17 NYJ WR Michael Crabtree - 10 I thought he'd slip, just not so much it appears.
18 Den ILB Brian Cushing - 15 I wonder if we considered trading down, but thought we'd lose our guy.
19 TB DE Michael Johnson - 70 There aren't that many owners in the NFL like Al Davis.
20 Det OT Ebon Britton - 39 The Jags got good value in my opinion.
21 Phi TE Brandon Pettigrew - 20 Not too far off
22 Minn WR Jeremy Maclin - 19
23 NEP CB Darius Butler - 41 New England waited and still got their guy
24 Atl DT Peria Jerry - 24 Nailed it!
25 Mia WR Percy Harvin - 22
26 Bal ILB James Laurinaitis - 35
27 Ind DT Ziggy Hood - 32
28 Phi WR Hakeem Nicks - 29 Just missed.
29 NYG WR Darius Heyward-Bey - 7 Should have listend to Michael Lombardi on this one.
30 Tenn DE Robert Ayers - 18
31 Arz RB Knowshon Moreno - 12 The need of defensive players led me down this path
32 Pitt DE Tyson Jackson - 3 Are you freakin' kidding me?

2nd round
33 Det CB Alphonso Smith - 37
34 NEP OT William Beatty - 60 This is when I was expecting a reach on OTs
35 StL RB Donald Brown - 27 I even knew this guy had 1st round talent.
36 Cle RB Beannie Wells - 31
37 Sea QB Josh Freeman - 19 Predicting when a QB will be selected is hard work.
38 Cinci OC Alex Mack - 21 My apologies to the Mack family.
39 Jax OT Jamon Meredith - 162 I guess I wasn't the only one who took him off the draft board.
40 Oak WR Louis Murphy - 124 This was my Al Davis reach. Big Al took him later - where he should have.
41 GB DT Ron Brace - 40
42 Buf OLB Marcus Freeman - 154 Oh my. Again, I bit on the measurable instead of my eyeballs. I took him off my board, but put him back on.
43 SF OLB Lawrence Sibury - 125 Man is this painful.
44 Mia CB Sean Smith - 61 Right team, right round, wrong pick.
45 NYG TE Jared Cook - 89 Another player I'm glad that I removed from "My guys"
46 Hou S William Moore - 55 I let my emotions get the better of me
47 NEP DE Jarron Gilbert - 68
48 Den SS Patrick Chung - 34
49 Chi WR Brian Robiskie - 36
50 Cle FS Louis Delmas - 33 Everyone loves this guy more than I do.
51 Dal WR Kenny Britt - 30 I was happy to be wrong about this guy.
52 NYJ CB DJ Moore - 119 A CB with slow 40 time - not a good combo
53 Phi OG Max Unger - 49 At least I knew we would pass on him.
54 Minn CB Asher Allen - 86 Another emotional pick
55 Atl OLB Clint Sintim - 45
56 Mia OLB Larry English - 16 I'm not a fan
57 Bal TE James Casey - 152 Wow, give Rick Smith a raise people.
58 NEP OC Eric Wood - 28 Now who said he was a 4th rounder?
59 Car DE Paul Kruger - 57
60 NYG RB LeSean McCoy - 53
61 Ind DT Sen'Derrick Marks - 62 Just a bit outside
62 Tenn OG Duke Robinson - 163 I was hoping they'd reach
63 Arz DE Fili Moala - 56
64 Pitt CB Keenan Lewis - 96 Right team, wrong round.

3rd round
65 Det MLB Darry Beckwith - Undrafted Free Agent. Could we please get his agent on the phone?
66 StL WR Juaquin Iglesias - 99
67 KC RB Andre Brown -129 Who would think KC would take another RB so early? Oh yeah, me.
68 Sea FS Darcel McBath - 48
69 Dal OT Phil Loadholt - 54
70 Cinci RB Shonn Greene - 65 That's why the JETS moved up.
71 Oak FS Rashad Johnson - 95
72 Jax DT Dorrell Scott - 103 They took a different DT (a guy I wanted in the 6th round)
73 GB RB Rashad Jennings - 250 This guy must have a LOT of baggage.
74 SF QB Rhett Bomar - 151 Another QB to f'ckd things up.
75 Buf TE Chase Coffman - 98
76 NYJ RB Javon Ringer - 173 Titans got a steal
77 Hou S Chip Vaughn - 116 Perhaps I shouldn't include the Texans in my mock drafts
78 SD OT Troy Kropog - 135 The OT run didn't happen like I thought.
79 Den TE Shawn Nelson - 121
80 Was WR Mike Thomas - 107 Too short to be this early
81 TB LB Gerald McGrath - 130 Titans got a steal
82 Det S Chris Clemons - 165
83 GB OT Gerald Cadogan - UDFA Glad I took him off my board too!
84 Den DE Alex Magee - 67
85 Phi OT Herman Johnson - 167
86 Minn OG Kraig Urbik - 79
87 Mia FS David Bruton - 114
88 Bal CB Mike Mickens - 227 Did the Cowboys really make me look this bad?
89 NEP WR Jarett Dillard - 144 I think the Jags did well here.
90 Atl TE Travis Beckum - 100
91 NYG LB Jason Williams - 69
92 Ind LB Darnell Ellerbe - UDFA Get Beckwith and this guy together, will ya?
93 Car QB Pat White - 44 Another QB messin with me.
94 Tenn WR Kevin Ogletree - UDFA I'm thinking we can sign him too.
95 Arz LB Tyrone McKenzie - 97 Not too bad
96 Pitt OT Fenuki Tupou - 159 I'm really off on the OTs
97 NEP OLB Cody Brown - 63 I thought I was one of the few who liked him that much.
98 Cinci MLB Scott McKillop - 146
99 Chi OC Antoine Caldwell - 77 Looks like Gibbs didn't think he'd last until the 4th round pick either.
100 NYG OG Andy Levitre - 51 My apologies to the Levitre family.

4th round
101 Dal SS Mike Hamlin - 166 Right team, wrong round.
102 KC OLB David Veikune - 52 Browns (I'm still calling that a reach)
103 StL CB Chris Owens - 90
104 Cle DE Mitch King - UDFA I thought somebody would like him
105 Sea CB Jairus Byrd - 42
106 Cinci OT Sebastian Vollmer - 58 That's 2 that I was late on.
107 Jax WR Kenny McKinley - 141
108 Mia ILB Jasper Brinkley - 150
109 GB CB Coye Francies - 191
110 Buf FS C.J. Spillman - UDFA
111 SF CB Morgan Trent - 179
112 Hou RB Cedric Peerman - 185
113 SD DT Ricky Jean-Francois - 244 WOW! I thought somebody would have bought him earlier.
114 Den DT Corvey Irvin - 93
115 NYJ QB Stephen McGee - 101
116 NO RB Glen Coffee - 74
117 Dal LB Zack Follett - 235 Big miss on my part.
118 NO OLB Jonathan Casillas - UDFA
119 Chi OT Joel Bell - UDFA
120 TB CB Captain Munnerlyn - 216 Now can you see why I didn't do more than 4 rounds?
121 Phi FS Sherrod Martin - 59
122 Hou CB Kevin Barnes - 80
123 Bal DE Kyle Moore - 117
124 NEP CB Victor Harris - 157 I hate slow CBs
125 Atl SS Emanual Cook - UDFA
126 Oak TE Cornelius Ingram - 153
127 Ind OG Trevor Canfield - 254
128 Car OG T.J. Lang - 109
129 NYG K Louie Sakoda - UDFA I hate predicting Kickers too.
130 Tenn CB Brandon Hughes - 148
131 Arz TE Cameron Morrah - 248 Almost a UDFA
132 Pitt OG Tyronne Green - 133 Almost a hit!
133 SD RB Kory Sheets - UDFA Never underestimate off field concerns.
134 SD SS Courtney Greene - 245 Almost a UDFA
135 Tenn DT Terrence Taylor - 136 Almost a Hit!
136 Ind DE Matt Shaughnessy - 71 Big Al did me again.

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Just doing a little Monday evening quarterbacking and seeing how I did on my mock draft.

The lesson I learned here is NEVER do more than 3 rounds. Secondly, stick with your gut instincts on YOUR draft board. The guy that you want in the 2nd round may very well be there in the 4th round. Lastly, nobody knows nothing until after the draft. It's easy to come in and cherry pick who you could have gotten in the 7th round after the fact. Also, those hidden gems are there because everybody else is looking for something completely different on the 2nd day. I had a draft board of 67 players, but could have filled my slots with what I considered 5th round talent, or better with a draft board of 48. I thought Moore, Vaughn, and Brown were all 2nd round talented players and could have drafted all three of them after getting what I considered the 6th best player in the draft (3rd best for our roster). In fact, I could have traded down to 42 and gotten him along with more draft picks. That's why the Professionals get paid the big bucks

[Nconroe]

Thanks Roy for all your great insights and sharing your hard work. You helped me feel much more informed this year.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Just doing a little Monday evening quarterbacking and seeing how I did on my mock draft.

The lesson I learned here is NEVER do more than 3 rounds. Secondly, stick with your gut instincts on YOUR draft board. The guy that you want in the 2nd round may very well be there in the 4th round. Lastly, nobody knows nothing until after the draft. It's easy to come in and cherry pick who you could have gotten in the 7th round after the fact. Also, those hidden gems are there because everybody else is looking for something completely different on the 2nd day. I had a draft board of 67 players, but could have filled my slots with what I considered 5th round talent, or better with a draft board of 48. I thought Moore, Vaughn, and Brown were all 2nd round talented players and could have drafted all three of them after getting what I considered the 6th best player in the draft (3rd best for our roster). In fact, I could have traded down to 42 and gotten him along with more draft picks. That's why the Professionals get paid the big bucks

Yeah, the mocks and forecasts are kind of silly. However, they provide a genuine service for us. They give us a framework to discuss team needs and also to talk about the exiting college talent. So, here's hoping you subject yourself to some more humble pie next year with a lot of 7 round mock drafts. I'll be complicit. Next year we can all be a little more aware that it is an exercise only and perhaps we won't sit around on draft day screaming that a guy we had rated 45th is sitting on the board in the 4th round.

[popanot]

No disrespect to anyone because we all have a right to do what they want with their own time, but I pay much more attention to player/team analysis and discussion than I do to someone's mock. That includes here as well as the Interwebs. Mocks are so damn silly to me and it's laughable at how wrong most people are on them. Especially ones that go beyond the 1rst or 2nd round.

[Bigtinylittle]

I also want to add my thanks to Roy. I always read all his posts. One of my goals these days is to learn all I can about the Texans, and predraft predictions help me do that.

However, I do agree with Papanot that player/team analysis and discussion is ultimately much more important.