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Old 12-03-2008, 03:23 PM
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Default What is the verdict on Okam?

Too lazy?
Uncoachable?
Not in shape?
Not commited to football?
OR just plain not good enough?

LAST: Will Kubiak bring him in for another try next year?
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:07 PM
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His biggest problem is that he's a first year DT. I don't think he's necessarily lazy or uncoachable....he's probably never had to try before. That takes some getting used to when for the last 8 years you've been able to get by on bulk alone.

I hope they give him a chance to develop, but 5th rounders have a shorter leash.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:10 PM
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He was a fifth round pick who many argue has first round talent. That aside DT's dont typically come out of the gate in full glory for everyone to bask in. The odds of him not making the team next year are slim imo, if he was that bad he would be on the PS atm or no where.

His upside as a player, his size, and what ever ability he has shown in college and the NFL, adds up to the player being groomed to finally move TJ back to where he should be.

Mario- sink or swim
Ryans- sink or swim
Amobi- sink or swim
Daniels- Had to prove he was the better TE
Bennet- Needed a chance to play
Diles- Needed a chance to play
Adibi- Needed a chance to play
Slaton- Hit the ground running

Our biggest impact rookies over the last few years, and only Mario, Ryans, and Daniels have shown consistently that they are better than average.

Talent wise Okam is no Henderson or Hayensworth. Right now I couldnt even tell you if he has the talent TJ does, but obviously the coaches see or hope there is something in the kid to play at this level.

I said it about Mario, if you asked me about Amobi now I would say it, and I will say it about Okam.. DL cannot be judged until the third year. Hell I will even say that about TJ till the end of this year, given the piss poor coaching and bad positioning he had prior to last few years.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:24 PM
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He's a guy who has historically been known as lazy and unmotivated. He's currently a guy who's "a long, long way away." I hope he turns out to be a valuable contributor, but his past doesn't exactly inspire confidence in that.

That being said, I'm sure he's back next year. There's no reason to give up on a player after one year.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:11 PM
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well, overall I agree with Kravix. give him time to develop. I think I've only seen Okam in a game twice and both times he seemed to do okay, ie. move the pile, make a tackle. But mostly he is inactive for now. hope he's back and develops.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:27 PM
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But how will Okam improve if he is not given a chance to get more reps. If it is true you learn from your mistakes, then let him make his now rather than at a crucial time later. Same with Molden.
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