Front Office/HC/OC/DC who do you want?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.

That is the HC calling the plays. Once he passed off the play calling last season they won 6 in arow with a balanced attach. Laugh if you want
but Mornhinweg has an excellent resume.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Who do you people suggest?

They few guys I liked where hired in the last the off season. Rex Ryan was my 1st choice. Jim Schwartz was my 2nd choice. And Mike Singletary was my 3rd choice. I also like Mike Nolan and he can be had.

Now I am open, unless Jeff Fisher becomes available.

[edo783]

I hear Tom Cable will be available.

[popanot]

Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet. If they want to raid the Eagles for some of their front office people, I'm good with that as they've shown they know how to run a franchise with an eye on fiscal responsibility.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by edo783

I hear Tom Cable will be available.

Nope. He's going to be coaching a team that wears striped britches. And I'm not talking about today's Broncos.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet. If they want to raid the Eagles for some of their front office people, I'm good with that as they've shown they know how to run a franchise with an eye on fiscal responsibility.

Give a name or two that you think can be sold to the fans. And remember that is what Capers was considered.

IMO the big named guys are not coming to Houston.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Who do you people suggest?

GM - Howie Roseman Currently VP player personnel
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...seman_h_1.html

HC - Marty Mornhinweg Currently Assistent HC/Offensive OC
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...nhinweg_1.html

OC - Tom Clements Currently Packers QB coach
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/clements_tom/

DC - Dennis Thurman Currently Jets Defensive Backs coach
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...dennis-thurman


I think I put this somewhere. I'm not married to Thurman at the DC. I'd be more than happy to get someone on Jim Johnson's coaching tree like Rory Segrest or Bill Shuey. Before we hired Frank Bush, I was hopeful we'd at least interview Sean McDermott (who has taken over since JJ's death for the Eagles).

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by popanot

Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet.

The fans won't care if he's not an Aggie or from Texas or coached the Lions, when this team finally has MORE wins than losses.

McNair would prove that he wants this team to get better. Once the Texans make the playoffs, we won't be able to buy season tickets at face value.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by Roy P

The fans won't care if he's not an Aggie or from Texas or coached the Lions, when this team finally has MORE wins than losses.

McNair would prove that he wants this team to get better. Once the Texans make the playoffs, we won't be able to buy season tickets at face value.

What does Aggie or Texas have to do with anything? You may think he's fantastic, but I'll guarantee you what most fans will see is 'Marty Mornhinweg, ex-coach fired by one of the worst franchises ever'. He may turn out great, but fans are not going to like it and it will show at the gate. That's all I'm saying.

[painekiller]

Some names I want to hear some input on .

Jim Harbaugh, former QB coach of the Raiders, current HC of Stanford.

An old name not mentioned recently, Steve Mariucci. I know he was another Lions bust, but was it the coaches or the GM and lack of talent?

Mike Heimerdinger is another WCO general who has had mixed success. A former roommate of Shanahan's.

Brian Schottenheimer, Marty's son, is the current Jets OC. He is having some success.

Old School, Dan Henning currently the OC with the Dolphins.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Give a name or two that you think can be sold to the fans. And remember that is what Capers was considered.

IMO the big named guys are not coming to Houston.

I don't think it has to be a big named guy, but I do think they'd have a hard sell with Mornhinweg considering his head coaching history. It would not create excitment and I think it'd be a downer to most. The thought would be "Well, he failed miserably in Detroit and now we hire him?". Like I said, you and Roy may love him and he may be great, but I don't think most fans would buy it. And I don't think McNair would want to do that considering how awful this franchise has been. Just my opinion...

If you want me to throw out big name coaches, then I'll go with Holmgren or Gruden. Not that I neccessarily want either of them (although I'd probably be fine with either). I just think those are two big name guys who would come here for the right offer. No way Cowher comes here and no way we hire Shanahan after Kubiak.

[painekiller]

I am going out on a limb here and saying what about this lineup?

GM Ron Hughes current Head of College scouting for the steelers.
HC Dick LeBeau steelers DC
OC Ken Anderson current QB coach steelers
DC Ray Horton current DB coach steelers.

That not's going to happen.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

If you want me to throw out big name coaches, then I'll go with Holmgren or Gruden. Not that I neccessarily want either of them (although I'd probably be fine with either). I just think those are two big name guys who would come here for the right offer. No way Cowher comes here and no way we hire Shanahan after Kubiak.

And I do not see any reason for Holmgren to come out of retirement for the Houston Texans.

And I think Gruden is a joke of a HC. I do not think he wins without Kiffen as DC.

So it's either another young guy with no experience or a recycled loser.

As an alternative to Gruden give me Mariucci, and I might be interested.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

What does Aggie or Texas have to do with anything? You may think he's fantastic, but I'll guarantee you what most fans will see is 'Marty Mornhinweg, ex-coach fired by one of the worst franchises ever'. He may turn out great, but fans are not going to like it and it will show at the gate. That's all I'm saying.

IMO Marty is just another name on the list. He has a good resume. But he is not my front runner.

I have not decided who that is, as mentioned my 3 hot names from before have all been hired in the last 12 months as new HC. (Ryan, Schwartz and Singletary)

I am thinking Brian Schottenheimer, Mike Nolan, and Dan Henning are the top of my list, but it can and will change.

[popanot]

I think Holmgren would come here for the right offer. This team is not that bad personnel wise. If he had control of the roster and the money was right, I could see him coming here. I'm not a big fan of Gruden either. I'm just saying that he'd probably come here if the offer was right. Mariucci seems really comfortable with his NFLN gig. I don't get the feeling he's interested in coaching or feels he has more to prove (like Gruden/Shanahan, etc.). I don't know... I think I need to let the season play out a bit before analyzing who would be good candidates. An assistant or two might emerge similar to Haley last year. Man, this is so frustrating!!

[barrett]

Name guys will go wherever they can get paid. The current trend is to hire young guys for low salaries. Nobody is knocking down the door for cower, holmgren, shanahan, etc...

I don't know if I want one of those guys, but they could be had if McNair opens the wallet.

[TexanJedi]

Could McNair coax Dungy out of retirement? I hope all of this talk turns out to be premature as I desperately want to see Kubiak and these Texans succeed, but another 8-8 means he should go.

[Fonz the Boss]

I want Chucky

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Fonz the Boss

I want Chucky

I don't. Unless you think we should draft Tebow and run the Wildcat 75% of the time.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by popanot

What does Aggie or Texas have to do with anything? You may think he's fantastic, but I'll guarantee you what most fans will see is 'Marty Mornhinweg, ex-coach fired by one of the worst franchises ever'. He may turn out great, but fans are not going to like it and it will show at the gate. That's all I'm saying.

That was one of the selling points on deciding on Kubiak. He had a tie to the area. The same thought process would have had the Texans draft VY instead of Mario, by the way.

The "fans" will like having a winning team on the field. That will show at the gate.