Schaub Out A Month

[Joshua]

If it took Sage 8 years to learn that "Hey, turnovers are not a good thing for my team, maybe I shouldn't do that," then I think I know why he's never been given the chance to be a starter.

In all seriousness, every QB knows turnovers are the absolute worst thing you can do, that generally you shouldn't throw into double coverage, you shouldn't throw across your body (particularly when throwing back across the field), etc. Heck, most have known it since junior high. However, knowing it and not doing it in the heat of battle are 2 completely different things. Sage is who he is. I'm sure he knows all these things in the calm of a Monday afternoon interview. However, in the game, he takes unnecessary chances. Always has and always will. It's one reason he has never been, and likely never will be, a starter.

[NBT]

In the meantime Sage is our saviour for the next month. I wish him well. The Oline are not blocking for the pass as well as they did last year. JMHO

[popanot]

Anybody wanna bet Schaub's done for the year?

[Arky]

Originally Posted by popanot

Anybody wanna bet Schaub's done for the year?

Not me!

I'm OK with Sage for a while... People haven't quite forgiven him yet for choking away the Colt game but he did have some nice wins last year vs. Tampa Bay, Denver and Jacksonville.... So, he's got it in him.... just gotta hope the turnovers (and there will be some) aren't the game losing variety..

[Keith]

Originally Posted by popanot

Anybody wanna bet Schaub's done for the year?

Are you including playoffs, too?

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by Keith

Are you including playoffs, too?

There won't be any playoffs, not for the Texans anyway.

I've been way out of the loop lately. Did the Texans file a protest about Allen's hit? Was Allen even flagged? Was he fined? Did he pass a breathalyzer afterwards?

What is it about the Texans that they never fight back when their quarterback is cheap-shoted? Remember Drayton Florence in San Diego last year?

There are times in this sport that you have to grow a pair and make a point. If it means twisting Adrian Peterson's knee into a pretzel a full minute after the whistle blows, somebody has to deliver a message - hurt us outside the rules and we will hurt you back. Do you think for a minute that a team like the Steelers or the Ravens would let Allen get away with that? They would send four guys after Allen's knees on the next play and would need to be pulled off him.

It's bad enough to have a team that sucks. It's worse to have a team that's sackless and sucks too. That has been the Houston Texans.

Jerry Glanville used to be accused of coaching his team to play dirty. Particularly Chuck Noll (whose Steelers were never choirboys either - ask Mike Barber about that) would complain. Glanville had the right answer. "For years the Oilers were laughed at because they wouldn't fight back. What they are complaining about isn't the way we are playing. It's that we are fighting back. They can't bully us anymore." There's some truth to that.

But if the Texans won't even raise hell with the league about it, as they apparently didn't with the Florence hit either, they'll continue to get bullied around the league.

[BizidyDizidy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

There won't be any playoffs, not for the Texans anyway.

I've been way out of the loop lately. Did the Texans file a protest about Allen's hit? Was Allen even flagged? Was he fined? Did he pass a breathalyzer afterwards?

What is it about the Texans that they never fight back when their quarterback is cheap-shoted? Remember Drayton Florence in San Diego last year?

There are times in this sport that you have to grow a pair and make a point. If it means twisting Adrian Peterson's knee into a pretzel a full minute after the whistle blows, somebody has to deliver a message - hurt us outside the rules and we will hurt you back. Do you think for a minute that a team like the Steelers or the Ravens would let Allen get away with that? They would send four guys after Allen's knees on the next play and would need to be pulled off him.

It's bad enough to have a team that sucks. It's worse to have a team that's sackless and sucks too. That has been the Houston Texans.

Jerry Glanville used to be accused of coaching his team to play dirty. Particularly Chuck Noll (whose Steelers were never choirboys either - ask Mike Barber about that) would complain. Glanville had the right answer. "For years the Oilers were laughed at because they wouldn't fight back. What they are complaining about isn't the way we are playing. It's that we are fighting back. They can't bully us anymore." There's some truth to that.

But if the Texans won't even raise hell with the league about it, as they apparently didn't with the Florence hit either, they'll continue to get bullied around the league.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...hit-on-schaub/

[NBT]

Allen should be suspended for the length of time it takes for schaub's knee to heal. It was obviiously low, and intentional. The guy on top saw it coming and helped to push him into it. He should be suspended too.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by NBT

Allen should be suspended for the length of time it takes for schaub's knee to heal. It was obviiously low, and intentional. The guy on top saw it coming and helped to push him into it. He should be suspended too.

He wasn't suspended. Just fined. I did not see where they said how much or anything like that. BS!

[Keith]

$50,000 fine. Allen is appealing, of course.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6100775.html

Pitts apparently separated Allen's shoulder in the same game. Retaliation?

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by Keith

Pitts apparently separated Allen's shoulder in the same game. Retaliation?

I sure hope so, even if the Texans won't admit to it.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Keith

Pitts apparently separated Allen's shoulder in the same game. Retaliation?

I'm pretty sure that was Brisiel - not Pitts. Allen was quoted as saying it was Pitts but I think he's got his names mixed up. My DVR shows it as Brisiel. Brisiel put a Haynesworth-like pancake on him and that was the play Allen came out of the game favoring his shoulder....

Perhaps it wasn't a direct retaliation but I'm sure everyone on that O-line knew where all the disruption was coming from...

[popanot]

Winston was quoted as saying the OL didn't know of Allen's cheap shots until after the game and if they had known before then they would've retaliated. So no, I don't think Breisel's hit was retalitation.

[barrett]

Don't worry. After this game I am sure Sage will watch film and figure out that turning the ball over is really holding back his development as a QB. I am sure we will see a whole new QB next week after he figures that out.